Shiny Jet Syndrome

GaTechKid said:
I remember reading a post by BobDDuck about how, for the most part, SJS exists only in the forum world. I have to agree. Most guys on the line worry about serious issues such as family, time off, location, compensation, and career movement rather than how awesome it is to fly super l337 jets.
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I third.
 
GaTechKid said:
I remember reading a post by BobDDuck about how, for the most part, SJS exists only in the forum world. I have to agree. Most guys on the line worry about serious issues such as family, time off, location, compensation, and career movement rather than how awesome it is to fly super l337 jets.
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Take a 300-400 hour pilot, toss him in ground school at his first 121 airline and dangle CRJ-900s in front of him during contract negotiations. SJS comes out. BrettinLJ can back me up on this one.....
 
sorrygottarunway said:
half my colgan class has left to find a job at an E170 operating carrier...
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All the fewer to get in your way of an upgrade.

SJS is in the 400 hr pilots head. After a year on the line I bet quite a few get over it. But then it rears its ugly head when it comes time to upgrade. "Pay cuts to upgrade?" sure Ill make more than I do now when I get that left seat. Problem is they feel entitled to that left seat 'cause the "put their time in" and fail upgrade because they think it should be given to them.

If you want to see SJS in full force go over to Airliners.net:
Dood NW is getting -900's dooood!!!111!!! Those will be killer doood!!!111

Honestly to me it looks like a farking (bed play toy)
 
Take a 300-400 hour pilot, toss him in ground school at his first 121 airline and dangle CRJ-900s in front of him during contract negotiations. SJS comes out. BrettinLJ can back me up on this one.....
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Since I don't work for Pinnacle, I can't attest to the quality of new-hires for your airline. However, I can say that a 300-400 hour pilot was non-existant at the regionals which I do have first-hand experience at and the 500-700 hour pilot was few and far between. Newbies couldn't go to one airline because of SJS because there were no "shiny jets" and the second is a mecca for other 121/135 pilots.
 
Yeah I had SJS. Working 7 days a week straight on less then minimum wage just to get to 600TT so I could apply at a Regional to fly jets. It caught up with me, and I didn't reach 600TT.

I think there are a couple different forms of the "disease". I had it for awhile because all I could think about was how quickly I could get from here to there. Eventually with the school loans piling up, and the Regional salaries not going anywhere, SJS didn't seem like such a good thing. Of course everything happens for a reason I suppose, so I'm off to another line of work and build my hours as a part time instructor.

I think when young folks have such a strong desire to make it in this career, they tend to overlook the facts about the working conditions and the industry and more importantly, the debt that must be incurred to get there.
 
I like looking through Business Air magazines, but I have to realize its not what jet I fly, its which jet job will ghive me the best lifestyle. I don't think some pilots realize this. I guess it mostly applies to corporate pilots, because I think and would hope a person who wants to fly for a reginol would know about the lifestyle.

Guess I have to rip down my cockpit posters and pictures of planes in sunsets because it distracts me from my career path.:sarcasm:
 
Hey, I think if you have nothing keeping you in one location, and are willing to move anywhere then there is nothing wrong with wanting to fly the newest coolest looking jet.

Now if you have a desire to live in a particular place then, you choose based off of that. Then there are the people that solely choose based off of who pays the most, and the ones who choose the job that will set them up for the best career.

It all depends ont he person.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Hey, I think if you have nothing keeping you in one location, and are willing to move anywhere then there is nothing wrong with wanting to fly the newest coolest looking jet.

Now if you have a desire to live in a particular place then, you choose based off of that. Then there are the people that solely choose based off of who pays the most, and the ones who choose the job that will set them up for the best career.

It all depends ont he person.
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I agree.
 
"I think there are a couple different forms of the "disease". I had it for awhile because all I could think about was how quickly I could get from here to there"

I think ATP over promotes this in their marketing and the way they run their operation.
 
DE727UPS said:
I think ATP over promotes this in their marketing and the way they run their operation.
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For the most part people who go to ATP want to start a an airline career. Why not market it like that?

I think I am about the only one who went to ATP and passed up on instructing there and zipping straight to the airlines in favor of instructing and living where I want to live.

No one goes to ATP to be a career GA pilot, it's all about the airlines there, or maybe corporate jobs if people are lucky enough.
 
"For the most part people who go to ATP want to start a an airline career. Why not market it like that?"

There is a difference between wanting an airline career and encouraging people that they need to go from zero to an RJ in sixth months. I think Airdale's point that the system he was in led him to his SJS disease is well taken.
 
n57flyguy said:
but I have to realize its not what jet I fly, its which jet job will give me the best lifestyle.
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Shhhhhhh! The last thing we need is everybody competing for the jobs that afford some quality of life!

SJS rules! If you're not flying a brand new ERJ, you're nobody! What kind of pilot would risk his life in a 40 year-old t-prop?!?!

[And how the hell do you make a sarcasm tag?]
 
WAFlyBoy said:
Shhhhhhh! The last thing we need is everybody competing for the jobs that afford some quality of life!

SJS rules! If you're not flying a brand new ERJ, you're nobody! What kind of pilot would risk his life in a 40 year-old t-prop?!?!

[And how the hell do you make a sarcasm tag?]
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Yeah, I guess, but this forum is about helping others. I promise, no more corporate aviation secrets:)

I hear those 40yr old TPs are pieces of crap. And they dont even have glass cockpits?

:sarcasm: , under "smiles", under "yeah that", above the "whatever".
 
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