Uniforms at the instructing level

kellwolf said:
......... To me, professionalism is in the person, not the uniform. You can have a guy in an airline-esque unifrom be totally un-professional just as easily as the guy wearing a t-shirt and shorts can be extremely professional.
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:yeahthat: Professionalism is an attitude, a manner in which you carry yourself, a respect for yourself and how you interact w/ others....etc....

It has little to do w/ what you are wearing......to a degree.
 
kellwolf said:
Man, a tie? That's a little over the top right there. A lot of the guys at the airlines have clip ons that come off as soon as the cockpit door is closed. Is there even a place to hang a clip on in a 172?
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I was going to suggest you talk to Matt, but he already beat me to it. :)

chrisdahut1 said:
To make things worse, a tie was required year round. It was the most uncomfortable thing to wear when flying in a C-152 in the Florida heat. The worst part was flying to such places as Naples, FL.
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Florida heat? HA!!! Try the heat in the "San Joaquin Valley"!!! 100's for weeks! And furthermore, try that while flying in the state-of-the-art Alarus! :insane: (I think Nick should chime in here)

WAFlyBoy said:
The flight school I teach at requires students and instructors to wear uniforms. I don't really mind terribly. They don't make us wear ties in the summer and the uniform is a good conversation starter with the chicks in town. (latter intended as a joke.... kind of)

Anyhow, we only train foreign pilots at this campus and I'm quite certain that the requirement of a uniform fosters an environment of professionalism and discipline that wouldn't exist if we wore street clothes while training.
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It's a good point, but I hope we're not so overly concerned about appearance that we neglect the things that really make the school run...like airplanes. :) I do admit though that although the uniform idea is nice, it can be a bit much. I don't think the issue amongst us is whether or not to wear uniforms. It's more of what the uniform entails.

kellwolf said:
I think we were just as professional at Skymates in polos, though. To me, professionalism is in the person, not the uniform. You can have a guy in an airline-esque unifrom be totally un-professional just as easily as the guy wearing a t-shirt and shorts can be extremely professional.
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That's true. What's that saying again? Something about the minute you open your mouth and talk it says a lot about you. Profesionalism is not an image. It involves character. So a person's character better match the "image" he/she is trying to project. Otherwise, that person would really be making a fool of himself/herself.

Neil
 
Airline pilot uniforms for instructors and students to fly C-152s is everything I need to know about the people that run the flight school.​
 
I actually left my flight school for a smaller one that didn't require uniforms. I am not a "dressing up" kind of person and I figure while I am learning I need to be as comfortable as possible so that I can focus on the task at hand...flying, and not some stupid uniform.
 
What makes the uniform at a flight school even MORE inane is that airline pilot instructors don't wear uniforms unless it's during IOE, when you are part of an operating crew. In the school house, you have got to be kidding!
 
kellwolf said:
The original poster was getting at the fact that wearing the uniform got them better service. A good FBO (like the one you mentioned) will give you good service whether you pull up in a Citation and epaulets or a 152 and flip flops.



I think we were just as professional at Skymates in polos, though. To me, professionalism is in the person, not the uniform. You can have a guy in an airline-esque unifrom be totally un-professional just as easily as the guy wearing a t-shirt and shorts can be extremely professional.
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Ahhh....we're not really all that professional in that case, Steve :)
 
N422NM said:
If I ran an FBO or academy that had only topless supermodels as CFI's I'm sure I would find some guy that would complain about their uniform on here...
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id complain... that they werent naked.

I hate uniforms.. (n422nm already knows this) they arer dumb.. especially when its summer in phoenix, they are reqd at my school but i dont wear them. i like to think im grandfathered in.. i was there before they were reqd.
 
"What makes the uniform at a flight school even MORE inane is that airline pilot instructors don't wear uniforms unless it's during IOE"

Now, that's a good point...
 
DE727UPS said:
"What makes the uniform at a flight school even MORE inane is that airline pilot instructors don't wear uniforms unless it's during IOE"

Now, that's a good point...
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Idn't it though! I want three years of my uniform wearing, flight instructor life back, DAMN YOU UND!!!!!
 
Uniforms for students/instructors are just silly.

Even in flight attendant new hire school, (the Barbie Boot Camp of the airline world) instructors and students don't regurlarly wear their uniforms for training. Sometimes uniforms are worn during the last few days/week of training to get everyone in the 'hang' of the uniform & image regulations, but we don't wear them the whole time.

Why? Cause it's silly! Seriously!
 
The airline thing is a very good point. We didn't wear uniforms in ground school or in the sim, and neither did the instructors. Business casual was the order of the day. In fact, one of our instructors was a check airman that would wear jeans and a polo. Does that make them unprofessional? Nope.
 
kellwolf said:
The airline thing is a very good point. We didn't wear uniforms in ground school or in the sim, and neither did the instructors. Business casual was the order of the day. In fact, one of our instructors was a check airman that would wear jeans and a polo. Does that make them unprofessional? Nope.
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So then on the flip side.. Can a Mesa pilot wear a purple windbreaker and still be professional for what's on the inside?

(Wishing this example wasn't re: Mesa or it might be a tougher question)
 
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