Collegiate route vs flight school

College these days is such a blinding rip-off, in so many ways. No way I would pay the rack, retail rate they have going on these days. It is genuinely like a used car lot, where they knock $6000 of a beater that was $6k overpriced to start with. They make you jump ridiculous hoops, lie to your face and otherwise treat you worse than any other organization would dare considering the cash you are forking over. They also generally treat their employees like poop, but that's a whole other story.

But getting your ticket punched will check the one box that will give you the one thing that will help the most with the airlines. Not as much as it used to be, but it's no longer the wild west of the last few years, so max your chances.

There are alternatives to playing their game. Play your game.

Local community colleges are still somewhat of a bargain. It is literally the same material. There's only one Shakespeare. Only one periodic table. Often times they have pretty nice, if completely underutilized facilities.

Completely ignore any "guidance" or "career" counseling. Avoid complicating entanglements. Absolutely eschew anyone trying to loan you money of any kind. Like. The. Plague. If you can read, you can read the student catalog. Figure out from the easy to read grid which classes you need and check those boxes. Do NOT take no for an answer when you need something. You are the customer.

Enroll, run the table. If you REALLY feel like you need that brand name degree for reasons, wrap up as much as you can at the CC, then transfer. Often times state law requires state unis to accept CC transfers. Do the absolute minimum "in residence" to get your degree. Guess what? It looks just the same as someone who went all 4 years.

You might, just maybe, find a topic that is interesting, useful and for which you show promise. They exist, and if it's in STEM, you will get offers to go grad school where they pay YOU (absolutely do not consider it otherwise). If that's something you want to do, then by all means, but understand that the airlines are very, very time sensitive, and even a delay of one month can cause harm to a career of 30-35 years. Keep your eye on the prize at all times.

If you really need advice, find the one professor that is an adjunct and has a real, daytime job.
 
College these days is such a blinding rip-off, in so many ways. No way I would pay the rack, retail rate they have going on these days. It is genuinely like a used car lot, where they knock $6000 of a beater that was $6k overpriced to start with. They make you jump ridiculous hoops, lie to your face and otherwise treat you worse than any other organization would dare considering the cash you are forking over. They also generally treat their employees like poop, but that's a whole other story.

But getting your ticket punched will check the one box that will give you the one thing that will help the most with the airlines. Not as much as it used to be, but it's no longer the wild west of the last few years, so max your chances.

There are alternatives to playing their game. Play your game.

Local community colleges are still somewhat of a bargain. It is literally the same material. There's only one Shakespeare. Only one periodic table. Often times they have pretty nice, if completely underutilized facilities.

Completely ignore any "guidance" or "career" counseling. Avoid complicating entanglements. Absolutely eschew anyone trying to loan you money of any kind. Like. The. Plague. If you can read, you can read the student catalog. Figure out from the easy to read grid which classes you need and check those boxes. Do NOT take no for an answer when you need something. You are the customer.

Enroll, run the table. If you REALLY feel like you need that brand name degree for reasons, wrap up as much as you can at the CC, then transfer. Often times state law requires state unis to accept CC transfers. Do the absolute minimum "in residence" to get your degree. Guess what? It looks just the same as someone who went all 4 years.

You might, just maybe, find a topic that is interesting, useful and for which you show promise. They exist, and if it's in STEM, you will get offers to go grad school where they pay YOU (absolutely do not consider it otherwise). If that's something you want to do, then by all means, but understand that the airlines are very, very time sensitive, and even a delay of one month can cause harm to a career of 30-35 years. Keep your eye on the prize at all times.

If you really need advice, find the one professor that is an adjunct and has a real, daytime job.
As a product of the California State University myself, I don't disagree with any of this.
 
With the state of the industry there's no rush. Do it as cheaply as possible. The jobs will be there when you finish up
 
I got my commercial certificate through a commercial pilot school and liked how they streamlined the finish-up process. For your situation, the quicker path is typically accelerated training plus an online bachelor's. Just confirm the school's schedule works with your CFI job.
 
Hello fellow aviators!
I’m a student pilot about to finish my PPL training as well as an associates degree with a concentration in aviation.
Came here to ask for advice on whether I should complete the rest of my flight training at a university (I was accepted to transfer to OU) or join an accelerated flight school to obtain the rest of my licenses and ratings and then complete my bachelors degree online while I work as a CFI building my time. I’m looking to do get to the airlines in the most efficient way possible by saving as much money and time as as I can. Would love to hear what y’all think. Thanks in advance!

Does your family have money? How much?
 
No, but my Jitterbug has both a calculator and a calendar app. In like 72 point font. It's here somewhere. Where are my cheaters?

I’m near-sighted. Thankfully my near-vision correction is nothing. So glad I never had surgery, I’d be a slave to my readers.

Took some work to get my optometrist to gimme an RX with correction for instrument distance.

On a related note, met an older steelworker. His reading correction on his bifocals was on the top par of his lens. This allowed him to glance downward.
 
I’m near-sighted. Thankfully my near-vision correction is nothing. So glad I never had surgery, I’d be a slave to my readers.

I was massively near-sighted and I could read the "FU Yankee Pig-Dog" after the serial number on the back of whatever Chinese electronic appliance, etched in microns. But I did get the surgery, and while I don't yet need them in the cockpit, the cheaters are coming.

To be fair, they did warn me, and I'm still not sorry. It was long enough ago that I only kinda remember waking up trying to figure out which blob was the alarm clock, but I don't miss it.
 
I was massively near-sighted and I could read the "FU Yankee Pig-Dog" after the serial number on the back of whatever Chinese electronic appliance, etched in microns. But I did get the surgery, and while I don't yet need them in the cockpit, the cheaters are coming.

To be fair, they did warn me, and I'm still not sorry. It was long enough ago that I only kinda remember waking up trying to figure out which blob was the alarm clock, but I don't miss it.

Yeah. Always planned on surgery and now I’m glad I didn’t as I’m a big reader.

Here’s a strange one, two years ago my vision went from 20/200 to about 20/60 or better over the course of a few months. Doctors were stumped. Some associated it with Covid, others Diabetes.

Over the course of 18 months, I’m back to my starting point.
 
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