Amazon Air MIA Runway Excursion

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GypsyPilot said:
Yep. That’s insane. I’ve never seen a landing like that. Literally forced it on the runway. No spoilers deployed either.
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Do the 767 spoilers deploy only with 'weight on wheels,' as if the MLG bogies both flatten out? I'm not familiar with the way the Boeings do things, but it looked like they bounced after getting the nosewheel on. RT MLG looks flattened out.

But that thing absolutely did not want to stabilize and settle down. Holy crap.
 
Daily Mail claim, take with a grain of salt. Or the entire bagful fit that matter…






Firefighters could also be heard on the emergency radio dispatch scrambling to get hoses close enough to the plane to spray water to suppress the flames.

Making matters worse, the aircraft's left engine was still running when firefighters battled the blaze, making it dangerous for them to enter the plane to check for patients inside.

The firefighters could be heard in the radio traffic saying the pilots onboard told them they could not turn the engine off because they would need to 'energize' the aircraft, leaving firefighters on the scene forced to flood the engine with water.
 
Burrito said:
Do the 767 spoilers deploy only with 'weight on wheels,' as if the MLG bogies both flatten out? I'm not familiar with the way the Boeings do things, but it looked like they bounced after getting the nosewheel on. RT MLG looks flattened out.

But that thing absolutely did not want to stabilize and settle down. Holy crap.
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WOW and thrust at or near idle from what I remember of my time on the 767. Hard to tell if the mains are on or not. To me it looks like they’re barely touching the runway and maybe not enough for a WOW.
 
Pretty sure the fire handles and fuel sov work without ac power. Though something else associated could have broken and prevented the operation
 
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Albeit what Amazon is doing is not much different from what airlines are doing with the regionals I wonder if this will be the one that will make the FAA tell Amazon they have to create their own airline.

I say this because apparently UPS used to run the next day air side of the house the same way Amazon does. According to the OG’s here the FAA came in and complained about a lack of operational control. That’s how the airline division came about. Whether or not some feathers were ruffled before this happened on the FAA side is a story I haven’t gotten.
 
once touching down, if the spoilers don’t immediately deploy, are pilots not alert to immediately manually deploy them? one of our jets, when the spoilers are armed and green light on, occasionally something might not be fully touching something electric-wise, and the spoilers won’t auto-deploy on touchdown. Each pilot is alert to immediately pull the spoilers handle aft and manually deploy them. And that is SOP now for us to be alert for on touchdown.
 
MikeD said:
once touching down, if the spoilers don’t immediately deploy, are pilots not alert to immediately manually deploy them? one of our jets, when the spoilers are armed and green light on, occasionally something might not be fully touching something electric-wise, and the spoilers won’t auto-deploy on touchdown. Each pilot is alert to immediately pull the spoilers handle aft and manually deploy them. And that is SOP now for us to be alert for on touchdown.
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Current shop the CA backs up auto speedbrakes on every landing.

Previous one the PM would verify and call out auto spoiler deployment.
 
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