FAA suspending parallel approach at SFO
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ahw01
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SF Chron link. Is everything pay for these days…
Roger Roger
I am le tired
Seems like between re-aligning the FMS bridge procedure and the glide slope to the left side this has been pretty well ironed out. Might lead one to suspect that there might be other motives.
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welcome to end-stage capitalism, and largely why we are where we are.
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Apparently even that has been en•ified. xP
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
And yet we still have assbag “air carriers” that float around considering reserve as rest.
Way back in the day, outfits used to play all kinds of lame ass games. There was a local school that played the 1099 game with CFIs, who were expected to be in on a specified schedules and man the desk/phones.
Some rando kid dropped dime to the federal taxation authorities and who landed on the owner like a ton of cat litter.
Skip to the end, kid’s compatriots turned on them for blowing up their flying opportunity.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Way back in the day, outfits used to play all kinds of lame ass games. There was a local school that played the 1099 game with CFIs, who were expected to be in on a specified schedules and man the desk/phones.
Some rando kid dropped dime to the federal taxation authorities and who landed on the owner like a ton of cat litter.
Skip to the end, kid’s compatriots turned on them for blowing up their flying opportunity.
No good deed goes unpunished.
ahw01
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Are they: a) six feet under or b) doing time in Leavenworth, or c) flying rubber dog poop out of HK?
Minuteman
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“Officials at the FAA and at SFO confirmed a previous ban on parallel approaches will be "slightly revised" to now included staggered arrivals…
The new rules will allow, weather permitting, up to 42 aircrafts [sic] per hour, six more than before the change, but still less than what the airport maintained with parallel landings. It comes at a time when SFO is operating with reduced capacity because of ongoing maintenance to its runways, with one currently being used as a taxiway while the others alternating between landings and takeoffs.
Doug Yakel, the airport's spokesperson, confirmed the new staggered arrivals procedure is starting Wednesday. Airplanes will be arriving at staggered times, alternating which runway they use, which will help increase the number of landings and takeoffs in a limited timeframe.”
www.nbcbayarea.com
The new rules will allow, weather permitting, up to 42 aircrafts [sic] per hour, six more than before the change, but still less than what the airport maintained with parallel landings. It comes at a time when SFO is operating with reduced capacity because of ongoing maintenance to its runways, with one currently being used as a taxiway while the others alternating between landings and takeoffs.
Doug Yakel, the airport's spokesperson, confirmed the new staggered arrivals procedure is starting Wednesday. Airplanes will be arriving at staggered times, alternating which runway they use, which will help increase the number of landings and takeoffs in a limited timeframe.”
FAA announces plans to partially roll back SFO restrictions, allow more landings
Restrictions placed on operating procedures at SFO will be revised by the FAA, potentially increasing the number of aircraft that can be processed.
www.nbcbayarea.com
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I'll be there this Weekend and let you know how it goes
Pilot Fighter
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“Officials at the FAA and at SFO confirmed a previous ban on parallel approaches will be "slightly revised" to now included staggered arrivals…
The new rules will allow, weather permitting, up to 42 aircrafts [sic] per hour, six more than before the change, but still less than what the airport maintained with parallel landings. It comes at a time when SFO is operating with reduced capacity because of ongoing maintenance to its runways, with one currently being used as a taxiway while the others alternating between landings and takeoffs.
Doug Yakel, the airport's spokesperson, confirmed the new staggered arrivals procedure is starting Wednesday. Airplanes will be arriving at staggered times, alternating which runway they use, which will help increase the number of landings and takeoffs in a limited timeframe.”
FAA announces plans to partially roll back SFO restrictions, allow more landings
Restrictions placed on operating procedures at SFO will be revised by the FAA, potentially increasing the number of aircraft that can be processed.
It seems like staggering parallel landings would increase controller workload versus concurrent clearances that are likely to be staggered, by chance.
CFI A&P
Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
So far it seems the recent issues at SFO have been related to occupied runways, not collisions during the approach.
Unless just he goal is trying to get arrival rates down and reduce controller workload.
Roger Roger
I am le tired
The issue with the parallel approaches was that you easily got TCAS hits. Most airlines historically were allowed to go TA only with the pairing traffic in sight, but one particular airline that makes up the majority (or at least a plurality) of traffic at SFO changed that last year ish and started doing a lot of go arounds due to RAs, even with the shallower glide slope on 28L, they revamped the FMS Bridge Visual, still didn’t fix the issue and so here we are.
Was it any less safe than it’s always been? Not really. Was it normalization of deviance? Maybe. Would it be less of an issue if there was the staffing and training to run PRMs? Almost definitely. Was suspending paired approaches a jab in the eye at a blue city and is this partial rollback due largely to rich techbros complaining? Who can say.