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I don't really know much about them - what do they believe?
Basically radical Non-Conformist/Anabaptists from Germany/Swamp-Germany (some persist in calling it "the Netherlands"). Loosely, I would characterize their beliefs as "Original Protestantism taken to its logical conclusion". Books have been written about these things, but I think it would be fair to characterize it as something like "read the Gospels and take them seriously, live as the dead Jewish carpenter adjured you to live, with special emphasis on being 'in the world, but not of the world'".

TL;DR: They're Christians, in the original sense, before the laugh track, etc.
 
Basically radical Non-Conformist/Anabaptists from Germany/Swamp-Germany (some persist in calling it "the Netherlands"). Loosely, I would characterize their beliefs as "Original Protestantism taken to its logical conclusion". Books have been written about these things, but I think it would be fair to characterize it as something like "read the Gospels and take them seriously, live as the dead Jewish carpenter adjured you to live, with special emphasis on being 'in the world, but not of the world'".

TL;DR: They're Christians, in the original sense, before the laugh track, etc.

They embrace pacifism. I think it’s because it’s tough to tell what the hell the Bible says about violence.

There’s enough Amish and Mennonites in TN and KY that I’m kinda into chicks with bonnets.
 
Who was Amish at LaGuardia?
With oil prices what they are, all options are on the table

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Basically radical Non-Conformist/Anabaptists from Germany/Swamp-Germany (some persist in calling it "the Netherlands"). Loosely, I would characterize their beliefs as "Original Protestantism taken to its logical conclusion". Books have been written about these things, but I think it would be fair to characterize it as something like "read the Gospels and take them seriously, live as the dead Jewish carpenter adjured you to live, with special emphasis on being 'in the world, but not of the world'".

TL;DR: They're Christians, in the original sense, before the laugh track, etc.
 
No, it's not a generalization. You've been outspoken with your disdain for anyone not operating under Part 121, going so far as to invent your stupid little "corpie" term for them. But you were also quite outspoken about philandering and sexual predators being ethically the same so none of this is particularly surprising.

And I call 121 “One Twenty Weenies” :)
 
They embrace pacifism. I think it’s because it’s tough to tell what the hell the Bible says about violence.

There’s enough Amish and Mennonites in TN and KY that I’m kinda into chicks with bonnets.
Fair. I tend to go for three feet long hair braids and ankle length skirts of the Pentecostal ladies.
 
Basically radical Non-Conformist/Anabaptists from Germany/Swamp-Germany (some persist in calling it "the Netherlands"). Loosely, I would characterize their beliefs as "Original Protestantism taken to its logical conclusion". Books have been written about these things, but I think it would be fair to characterize it as something like "read the Gospels and take them seriously, live as the dead Jewish carpenter adjured you to live, with special emphasis on being 'in the world, but not of the world'".

TL;DR: They're Christians, in the original sense, before the laugh track, etc.

Flew with a guy way back in the day that was a Mennonite. Super solid dude. Built like a 100 YO Oak tree and probably could have run through a wall if he'd wanted.

Not surprisingly, there was a bit of friction with him and the typical airline life, but he seemed to manage it ok.
 
Flew with a guy way back in the day that was a Mennonite. Super solid dude. Built like a 100 YO Oak tree and probably could have run through a wall if he'd wanted.

Not surprisingly, there was a bit of friction with him and the typical airline life, but he seemed to manage it ok.

Hmmm. I had a client back in the telecom biz who was also a Mennonite. Owned a technology company, and was quite well-versed in some cutting-edge stuff (for voice, anyway) yet he didn't drive. His techs drove him around.

I was making an assumption that the driving was due to his chosen faith, but perhaps there was some other reason. Gives me something to think about.
 
Hmmm. I had a client back in the telecom biz who was also a Mennonite. Owned a technology company, and was quite well-versed in some cutting-edge stuff (for voice, anyway) yet he didn't drive. His techs drove him around.

I was making an assumption that the driving was due to his chosen faith, but perhaps there was some other reason. Gives me something to think about.

Mennonites by me drive. Amish can ride in cars but not drive. Don’t know if Mennonites are like Amish where the rules vary community by community.
 
Hmmm. I had a client back in the telecom biz who was also a Mennonite. Owned a technology company, and was quite well-versed in some cutting-edge stuff (for voice, anyway) yet he didn't drive. His techs drove him around.

I was making an assumption that the driving was due to his chosen fdfaith, but perhaps there was some other reason. Gives me something to think about.

Old Order Mennonites are more like Amish than most other Mennonite orders.

In KY, there are Amish that will drive on the job.

Pretty common for Amish to become Mennonites just to make a better life for their families.

Oddly, many Mennonites will confirm that they are Amish if asked and aren’t interested in talking about it. “Yah, someting like dat.”

The more sparse the Amish community, the more likely that you are to see independent decision-making.
 
Depending on it for commuting is different than depending on it as a livelihood, and you need to understand the different weight in those two states.

Bluntly, you're reflexively calling for the end of my career, which, forgive me, is something I'm sensitive to. Disclaiming it doesn't make it better. (Granted it's coming anyway thanks to the current president, but that's a separate affair.)

Just consider the effects reactionary calls for change may have on real people.

Also, there's a hint of "blame the regional," which ... no.
Without subscribing to, or agreeing with his solution to a safety issue, I find your response to it striking in that even someone with a vested interest in safety responds to it from a financial perspective. Just goes to show that “safety is number one” is nowhere near a true statement.
 
Without subscribing to, or agreeing with his solution to a safety issue, I find your response to it striking in that even someone with a vested interest in safety responds to it from a financial perspective. Just goes to show that “safety is number one” is nowhere near a true statement.

Not related to this specifically, but from about 15 years of observing pilot group for negotiating purposes, I've discovered that the biggest mitigator of fatigue is premium pay.
 
Without subscribing to, or agreeing with his solution to a safety issue, I find your response to it striking in that even someone with a vested interest in safety responds to it from a financial perspective. Just goes to show that “safety is number one” is nowhere near a true statement.
Oh, I agree. Bluntly, safety is never the number one priority, and hasn't ever been treated as such except as hyperbole.

While 121 flying is safety focused, money is interest #1, #2 and #3. If that wasn't the case, dispatch would be 1:1, not 1:12, we wouldn't defer critical systems, ATC would be well-staffed and well-funded, pilots would be restricted to eight hours of duty (not FDP, not flight time, but duty) max per day, non-extendible, and no less than half hour of that duty, paid, would be allocated for reviewing the flight plan with each other and dispatch. Training would include ample time in the sim to go over not just basic procedures but also contingency planning, "build a team" CRM, obscure situations to emphasize systems-level thinking and reinforce training, and ... I mean, basically the stuff we think when we think of astronaut stuff.

Flight training would be free, provided by some sort of independent union to preclude companies having leverage over the pilots, anybody in the crew would be able to call a "safety stand down" if they got that itchy feeling, weather routing would involve large-scale tactical weather radar overlays with individual cell direction, intensity and speed, with associated phenomena predicted and mapped. You wouldn't have two miles of separation between an arrival on 28R and a takeoff clearance on 1L.

Literally could go on for hours.

We talk about safety, but, at the end of the day, the resources necessary to strengthen the system preclude shareholders making Phat Stax, and so it's always, always a balancing act.

The reason I respond in that context in my initial reply is because there's an implicit bias in it that isn't responsive (in my view) to the socioeconomic reality of the situation, and it's a reflex response to basically "get rid of those stinky regionals."
 
An interesting discussion I had with a friend this morning after some reports came out that the passengers didn't know what to do after the crash. The flight deck was compromised, forward flight attendant ejected, and haven't heard about the status of the other flight attendant and if they were injured and unable to assist with the evacuation.

Interesting scenario.
 
No. You have a disdain for professional pilots and their operations that aren’t 121.

“I would never put my family on a corpie airplane” - You.

That’s not in jest. That’s your ignorance.
To be fair, neither would I and I flew 91/135 for over a decade. I would qualify that statement though with unless I knew the pilot/pilots and was familiar with the operation.
 
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