KC-135 down, another damaged

Terrible to hear. I can't imagine just having that happen and having no way out afterwards. Side note, I wonder if I ever took gas from this particular tail. Not something that would be knowable, they log our tails but we don't take note of theirs. Real tragic
 
Reserve and ANG heavies usually deploy with aircraft and personnel from two or three different units per singular rotation, that makes up the deployed “provisional” unit.

I knew whole units didn’t deploy but assumed they were organized in something like two plane dets (Navy-speak).

I hope this all makes sense when we look in the rear view mirror in 6-12 months.

RIP.
 
I knew whole units didn’t deploy but assumed they were organized in something like two plane dets (Navy-speak).

I hope this all makes sense when we look in the rear view mirror in 6-12 months.

RIP.

That’s about right, in terms of what each unit contributes to the whole provisional squadron during a deployment.
 
Terrible to hear. I can't imagine just having that happen and having no way out afterwards. Side note, I wonder if I ever took gas from this particular tail. Not something that would be knowable, they log our tails but we don't take note of theirs. Real tragic

Won $30 once, headed to a tanker track leading a 4-ship of a junior Capt and two Lt’s. A few miles out in a turn, and rejoining the formation into observation position as I head to precontact. I announce over inter flight that “appears to be 84-0188”, to which I get comments of “BS”, blah blah. “Bet you all a ten spot each that I’m right, you guys can’t see the tail number, it’s plain as day?” Rejoin, and sure enough, KC-10 84-0188. “How can you read that?”

Won $30.

Helped to have called ahead to the unit and gotten the assigned tail of their jet before takeoff. 😂
 
Centcom released an update.

Four Confirmed Deceased in Loss of U.S. KC-135 Over Iraq

TAMPA, Fla. – At approximately 2 pm ET on March 12, a U.S. KC-135 refueling aircraft went down in western Iraq. Four of six crew members on board the aircraft have been confirmed deceased as rescue efforts continue.

The circumstances of the incident are under investigation. However, the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.

The identities of the service members are being withheld until 24 hours after next of kin have been notified.
 
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Interesting that I can see two KC-135s in an apparent fueling formation. Like shouldn't those airplanes not be showing up?

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Rumors are a near head on. Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907-esque. Take that for what it's worth though. Which is nothing.

Alright.
Thank you.

If accurate:
Hoe Lee •!

Note: Huuh, the alternate spelling of [FORNICATE] gets censored... who knew?!
 
Yeah. Rumors not from the same flight. If true, then some driveway / passage procedures need to be looked at and reviewed, and see whether a published procedural issue or failure to follow published procedure issue, or both.

Also hearing multiple units involved personnel-wise, as six onboard the one jet, is two complete crews.
 
then I'm going to guess the other one took it in the wing, as that would seem to be the only thing that would explain the damage.
 
then I'm going to guess the other one took it in the wing, as that would seem to be the only thing that would explain the damage.

Hard to say what the impact dynamic are right now. Could literally be any combination of aspects and angles.
 
Hard to say what the impact dynamic are right now. Could literally be any combination of aspects and angles.
There are examples of 707's losing a portion of wing outboard of the engines and landing successfully. In late 50's/early 60's.
 
There are examples of 707's losing a portion of wing outboard of the engines and landing successfully. In late 50's/early 60's.

One 190th Refueling Wing, Kansas Air Guard at Forbes/Topeka E-model 135, hit the wake turbulence of a preceding -135 while in trail formation during Desert Storm. The resultant Dutch rolls that occurred caused two of the J57 engines and pylons on the left side of the jet to separate and fall to the desert floor. Crew recovered with just the right side engines successfully. Keep in mind, this was a lesser powered and more rare E-model -135 this happened to, not the excess thrust R model, or much lesser thrust A model at least. Impressive.
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One 190th Refueling Wing, Kansas Air Guard at Forbes/Topeka E-model 135, hit the wake turbulence of a preceding -135 while in trail formation during Desert Storm. The resultant Dutch rolls that occurred caused two of the J57 engines and pylons on the left side of the jet to separate and fall to the desert floor. Crew recovered with just the right side engines successfully. Keep in mind, this was a lesser powered and more rare E-model -135 this happened to, not the excess thrust R model, or much lesser thrust A model at least. Impressive.
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"#1 and #2 engine missing"

Mechanic: "What you MEAN is......... oh"
 
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