Garmin auto land saves King Air

schloopy said:
Impressive. They are extremely lucky this didnt happen 24 hours earlier, not sure how well Garmin would have handled the 70 knot gusts.
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Probably not any worse than an incapacitated pilot. And I don’t know if it factors winds into airport selection or not. It does for runway selection I think.
 
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That's wild. I wonder if the plane was already bound for this airport and how the system decides on appropriate airport selection. If this had been a non-towered airport, there might not have been anyone to call EMS?
 
schloopy said:
Impressive. They are extremely lucky this didnt happen 24 hours earlier, not sure how well Garmin would have handled the 70 knot gusts.
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We skipped Denver that day. After the third United airplane shot an approach and then bailed and diverted to COS we decided it wasn’t worth the effort.
 
arkavgal said:
That's wild. I wonder if the plane was already bound for this airport and how the system decides on appropriate airport selection. If this had been a non-towered airport, there might not have been anyone to call EMS?
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Was just looking it up as a friend sent link, then came here.
It was filed Aspen To Jeffco, at 17,000.
Initial climb went to 23,400 then back down to 18000

decended to Jeffco, did a 360 off the approach end and landed

No idea when incapacitation took place,
it continued on to Wiley Post the next morning, so who knows how it all adds up
 
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arkavgal said:
That's wild. I wonder if the plane was already bound for this airport and how the system decides on appropriate airport selection. If this had been a non-towered airport, there might not have been anyone to call EMS?
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The Garmin Auto land picks up the weather, selects the most appropriate airport/runway, configures the aircraft, and lands.

It will land on a less-than-ideal runway if no appropriate runway exists.

It will also set up a hold pattern if the aircraft is not in the ideal configuration and energy state.

It automatically squawks 7700 so approach/center will know something is wrong.

Autoland also announces intentions, runway selected, location, time to land, and emergency status.

It's actually a relatively robust system.
 
Makes me think any aircraft with the same GPS should be able to fly all the Capstone II approaches and routes in Southeast.
 
DropTank said:
The Garmin Auto land picks up the weather, selects the most appropriate airport/runway, configures the aircraft, and lands.

It will land on a less-than-ideal runway if no appropriate runway exists.

It will also set up a hold pattern if the aircraft is not in the ideal configuration and energy state.

It automatically squawks 7700 so approach/center will know something is wrong.

Autoland also announces intentions, runway selected, location, time to land, and emergency status.

It's actually a relatively robust system.
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Very cool. How does the system know that the pilot is incapacitated?
 
LOL, some chucklehead in the Insta comments is opining that it's "not perfect" as it circled once instead of calculating base to final results.

Reminds me of the old "You would complain if they hung you with an old rope"
 
arkavgal said:
Very cool. How does the system know that the pilot is incapacitated?
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Jay Leno went flying in a Cirrus not long ago on one of his videos and they demonstrated it for him landing at KCMA, as I recall it had to be activated by someone and wasn't latched (meaning it could be disabled). I don't dislike it as long as it works as advertised, just like the parachute, but it will inevitably raise MX costs (maybe insurance costs will offset it). At some point you have to either test it (autoland) or replace it (parachute) to ensure it's there when you need it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKCaCCF-g
 
NovemberEcho said:
Believe someone in the plane has to activate it (just a big red panic button) so if you’re solo you’re out of luck
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I was wrong, per Garmin’s site it can determine the pilot is incapable of flying but it doesn’t say how

www.garmin.com

Garmin

Garmin Autonomí, is a family of solutions that adds automated, safety-enhancing tools for the pilot and passengers.
www.garmin.com www.garmin.com
 
arkavgal said:
Very cool. How does the system know that the pilot is incapacitated?
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Think of it like a dead man switch.
The pilot has to do something to the avionics within the previous 15 minutes (anything, any button)
After the elapsed time, a countdown timer starts (usually around 5 minutes) stating autoland will activate when timer elapses

Once the autoland activates, a pilot can take over.

There is also the Big Red Button on some planes to activate it.
 
DropTank said:
Think of it like a dead man switch.
The pilot has to do something to the avionics within the previous 15 minutes (anything, any button)
After the elapsed time, a countdown timer starts (usually around 5 minutes) stating autoland will activate when timer elapses

Once the autoland activates, a pilot can take over.

There is also the Big Red Button on some planes to activate it.
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Do you guys never go 15 min in cruise without doing something?
 
Additional info:
The PFD's and MFD go into de clutter mode.
(depending on installation) the MFD will have a big square touch space (3"x3" ish) as a push to talk button for any non-pilot passengers to communicate to the selected frequency.

The PFD shows a VERY simplified view displaying only basic information as not to sensory overload the non-pilot passengers.
It shows Time to Land, and a few other basic items.

The aircraft will come to a full stop, then display instructions to First Responders on how to secure the airplane.
Engage parking brake (with arrow to parking brake)
Select gear down (gear selector may not move in all aircraft types)
Engine shutdown (with visual on how to do so)
 
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