Alaska Air or UPS?

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
There’s 3 FOs I know doing it. Not by choice. Hopefully this bid of 20 FO proffer will get them SEA at least, if they want that.
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As you and others have pointed out many times. SEA is a less than desirable base for junior pilots for a lot of reasons. It would be a mixed bag to trade a shorter commute for worse QOL and still be a commuter.
 
I’d ask yourself one question, are you ok with the long haul freight life? If so, then it’s a no brainer that UPS is the choice. ANC is junior there, UPS is growing, and you don’t have to commute.

While Alaska seems like a good gig, a couple knocks would be commuting and the unknown of how the Hawaiian thing shakes out.
 
Just to help out @DE727UPS pass along good information. The posts on the B&G kinda drifted but there’s a sliver of truth in a few of the comments on there.
UPS
-ANC isn’t unlikely not going anywhere
-likely go get ANC out the gate
-International flying
-Long haul cargo schedules (good/bad)
Alaska
-could be a while to get ANC
-Drama? (Someone else will have to elaborate)
-a lot of unknowns with the merger
 
phill1174 said:
Just to help out @DE727UPS pass along good information. The posts on the B&G kinda drifted but there’s a sliver of truth in a few of the comments on there.
UPS
-ANC isn’t unlikely not going anywhere
-likely go get ANC out the gate
-International flying
-Long haul cargo schedules (good/bad)
Alaska
-could be a while to get ANC
-Drama? (Someone else will have to elaborate)
-a lot of unknowns with the merger
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Check plus. If you want to fly the whale at UPS, being willing (or anxious) to live in ANC is a huge advantage, and IMHO that's unlikely to change. I can't rationally say what the virtues or vices of Alaska are, relatively.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Check plus. If you want to fly the whale at UPS, being willing (or anxious) to live in ANC is a huge advantage, and IMHO that's unlikely to change. I can't rationally say what the virtues or vices of Alaska are, relatively.
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I can’t either, maybe not having an aural RA 😁. Seriously most seem to enjoy working there especially if they live on the west coast. They can’t go wrong with either job IMO.
 
phill1174 said:
Just to help out @DE727UPS pass along good information. The posts on the B&G kinda drifted but there’s a sliver of truth in a few of the comments on there.
UPS
-ANC isn’t unlikely not going anywhere
-likely go get ANC out the gate
-International flying
-Long haul cargo schedules (good/bad)
Alaska
-could be a while to get ANC
-Drama? (Someone else will have to elaborate)
-a lot of unknowns with the merger
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I don’t under stand the drama comments. Nothing burger.


As for unknowns in the merger, what exactly? If anything HNL is facing the chopping block on a certain fleet. Frankly, I’d be more concerned about the legacy AS side and regional airliners taking over more ANC flying. So far, the 737s seem superior to 175s especially when it comes to cargo related stuff.
 
phill1174 said:
Just to help out @DE727UPS pass along good information. The posts on the B&G kinda drifted but there’s a sliver of truth in a few of the comments on there.
UPS
-ANC isn’t unlikely not going anywhere
-likely go get ANC out the gate
-International flying
-Long haul cargo schedules (good/bad)
Alaska
-could be a while to get ANC
-Drama? (Someone else will have to elaborate)
-a lot of unknowns with the merger
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Thirster > box water from flint Michigan.
 
scoobs said:
UPS. Sit on reserve and count the cash.
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I need to know the secret. I don’t do reserve but from everyone I talk to in ONT at least they’re usually getting worked over pretty good.

I also need to know the secret about MIA. There’s a guy down there that posts about only working 8 days a month. I’d commute from the west coast to be all over that.
 
phill1174 said:
I need to know the secret. I don’t do reserve but from everyone I talk to in ONT at least they’re usually getting worked over pretty good.

I also need to know the secret about MIA. There’s a guy down there that posts about only working 8 days a month. I’d commute from the west coast to be all over that.
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I have dabbled in B-Reserve on the rare occasions that I can hold it. It's hit or miss, sometimes great, sometimes, well, not. It's been surprisingly good during peak (I'm assuming I could hold it then because everyone assumed it'd be awful). But that's fleet-dependent, I suspect (there just aren't that many SDF 74 flights going out during the B-Reserve window, so at least if you get tagged you will know fairly early on). A-Reserve is basically just saying "I don't care what you do to me and you can bring me home two days late with no penalty". No thanks.
 
Boris Badenov said:
I have dabbled in B-Reserve on the rare occasions that I can hold it. It's hit or miss, sometimes great, sometimes, well, not. It's been surprisingly good during peak (I'm assuming I could hold it then because everyone assumed it'd be awful). But that's fleet-dependent, I suspect (there just aren't that many SDF 74 flights going out during the B-Reserve window, so at least if you get tagged you will know fairly early on). A-Reserve is basically just saying "I don't care what you do to me and you can bring me home two days late with no penalty". No thanks.
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B is the go to down here as well. I think people bid lines during peak with the thought that reserve will be so bad when in reality it’s not. With as much flying as we do it’s probably like any other month now.
Maximilian_Jenius said:
Our friend?
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Nah, he’s down to earth and a straight shooter. It’s another guy who doesn’t miss a chance to tell people at other airlines/Air Lines how Brown is the superior job and everyone else works a lot more for much less. I’ll have to tag you when I come across the comments again.
 
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