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Wardogg

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Checks notes. Last I knew NASA couldn’t get astronauts to the space station and back in their own vehicle. And now in 5 months they are doing a lap around the moon? I’m excited but highly skeptical.

www.thetimes.com

Meet the astronauts who will fly to the moon for the first time in 54 years

The Artemis II crew includes the Nasa astronauts Reid Wiseman, who wants to honour his late wife’s wish for him to keep reaching higher, and Victor Glover
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They’ve done a test flight at least, so I feel optimistic.

I’m not optimistic about future missions. They are relying on SpaceX to get starship to do the lunar lander and that seems really behind.
 
BlueMoon said:
They’ve done a test flight at least, so I feel optimistic.

I’m not optimistic about future missions. They are relying on SpaceX to get starship to do the lunar lander and that seems really behind.
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I mean who else has done a better job than spaceX in the last decade plus… the SLS by Boeing is what I’d be concerned about.
 
Considering the American space program can’t secure funding that spans a presidential administration because of ‘cost and credit’, I think our human exploration days are in the “Uncle Rico, in the van, down by the river” phase.
 
WacoFan said:
Would you do this mission or Apollo 8 which was groundbreaking in tons of ways? And with slide rules and weak computers.
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Back then ignorance was bliss. Honestly? I’m on the Apollo mission. This one feels like a crap shoot at best. But that’s just an idiots view from the outside.
 
ahw01 said:
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Well, people think we’re just going to turn back”on” the NASA of the 1960’s by maybe adding a few dollars to the program. We’ve gutted the department of education, childcare have no interest in science, 50% of us think thoughts and prayers with a sprinkling of dude-bro podcasters subsitutes for education (“Just askin’ questions for the vibes, bro”). We could throw a trillion at space and end up with absolutely nothing because we don’t have a farm team of highly education, highly motivated young people AND the Far East is recruiting our brightest minds.

We’re basically dead seat on being a really nice third world nation.
 
derg said:
Well, people think we’re just going to turn back”on” the NASA of the 1960’s by maybe adding a few dollars to the program. We’ve gutted the department of education, childcare have no interest in science, 50% of us think thoughts and prayers with a sprinkling of dude-bro podcasters subsitutes for education (“Just askin’ questions for the vibes, bro”). We could throw a trillion at space and end up with absolutely nothing because we don’t have a farm team of highly education, highly motivated young people AND the Far East is recruiting our brightest minds.

We’re basically dead seat on being a really nice third world nation.
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Tbf we had to import some Nazi’s Germans for our space program in the Apollo days. Now we don’t even need to import them.
 
Hard times breed strong men...


If you ever take a deep dive into the engineering (on every side) that happened during WWII and consider the tools those folks were working with it's mind blowing. That same group of people were still alive and active for decades after hostilities ended and they had a bunch of pent up energy and we gave them an outlet. I wonder what the world would look like today if WWII had never happened?
 
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WacoFan said:
Would you do this mission or Apollo 8 which was groundbreaking in tons of ways? And with slide rules and weak computers.
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Had a 13-style accident happened on that flight, that would have been the whole program. Apollo was a wildly shoestring system. It did work, but it was on the margins…as you’d expect for a pioneering stab.

As a student of what’s now our national history in manned space flight, I think we went and caught the moon, and had just gotten good at going there, when it was turned off. I feel the same way about the Space Shuttle. Despite some of its requirements making the system border on the inherently unsafe, the rich data collection and operating experience/expertise at the end of the Program should have given NASA far more confidence in continuing to fly.

I have more confidence (perhaps misplaced) in a Boeing-Rocketdyne-Morton Thiokol-LockMart product mishmash operated by NASA than anything SpaceX could offer in the man-rated-to-the-moon space, though. They’re free to change my mind. They have yet to do so.

scooter2525 said:
“We choose to go to the moon!"

More of this.
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And instead we got: “In 2016, I declared: I am your voice. Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed: I am your retribution.”

Yup. High, unifying rhetoric.
 
knot4u said:
Hard times breed strong men...


If you ever take a deep dive into the engineering (on every side) that happened during WWII and consider the tools those folks were working with it's mind blowing. That same group of people were still alive and active for decades after hostilities ended and they had a bunch of pent up energy and we gave them an outlet. I wonder what the world would look like today if WWII had never happened?
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Be honest, how many grunt style t-shirts do you own?
 
Wardogg said:
Checks notes. Last I knew NASA couldn’t get astronauts to the space station and back in their own vehicle. And now in 5 months they are doing a lap around the moon? I’m excited but highly skeptical.

www.thetimes.com

Meet the astronauts who will fly to the moon for the first time in 54 years

The Artemis II crew includes the Nasa astronauts Reid Wiseman, who wants to honour his late wife’s wish for him to keep reaching higher, and Victor Glover
www.thetimes.com www.thetimes.com
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Won't happen.
 
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