Spirit back in chapter 11

Seems like the markets are predicting a Frontier merger. Sides met this week - would be massive help for spirit and frontier both. Granted that’s assuming spirit liquidates with the bad debt and frontier takes the good assets. Otherwise I have no idea how spirit survives. Surely they can’t think a quick restructure on aircraft leases is all they need.

frontier after hours shot up 10% on the report
 
“Spirit Airlines bosses want to cut pilots' union-negotiated pay as it seeks to recover from its second bankruptcy filing in under a year.

If the two sides can't reach a deal by October 1, Spirit could ask the courts to change or reject the union contract, under a section of Chapter 11 bankruptcy law.

[The MEC chair] said that past bankruptcy proceedings show there is "a significant advantage to reaching a consensual agreement" with the company, rather than letting the bankruptcy court impose terms.

‘Unfortunately, these are the tough calls we must make to emerge stronger,’ [CEO Dave] Davis said.”

The article calculates an average 30k per capita reduction in pay for the pilat group.

 
Executive NameYearBonus TypeAmount
Bendoraitis, John2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$940,500
Bendoraitis, John2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$579,616
Bendoraitis, John2024Performance Bonus$1,163,225
Bendoraitis, John2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$639,858
Bendoraitis, John2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,000,000
Bendoraitis, John Total$4,323,199
Canfield, Thomas C.2024Performance Bonus$939,063
Canfield, Thomas C.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$506,870
Canfield, Thomas C. Total$1,445,933
Christie III, Edward M.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$1,771,875
Christie III, Edward M.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$1,134,573
Christie III, Edward M.2024Performance Bonus$4,390,759
Christie III, Edward M.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$1,440,570
Christie III, Edward M. Total$8,737,777
Cromer, Frederick S.2024Performance Bonus$375,492
Cromer, Frederick S.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$277,508
Cromer, Frederick S.2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,200,000
Cromer, Frederick S. Total$1,853,000
Davis, Dave2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$2,900,000
Davis, Dave Total$2,900,000
Haralson, Scott M.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$1,410,000
Haralson, Scott M.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$600,837
Haralson, Scott M.2024Performance Bonus$270,000
Haralson, Scott M.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$171,350
Haralson, Scott M. Total$2,452,187
Klein, Matthew H.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$855,000
Klein, Matthew H.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$574,571
Klein, Matthew H.2024Performance Bonus$534,937
Klein, Matthew H.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$527,036
Klein, Matthew H. Total$2,491,544
McMenamy, Brian J.2024Performance Bonus$105,750
McMenamy, Brian J. Total$105,750
Wiggins, Rocky2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,000,000
Wiggins, Rocky Total$1,000,000
Grand Total$25,309,390


Let’s start here.
 
Executive NameYearBonus TypeAmount
Bendoraitis, John2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$940,500
Bendoraitis, John2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$579,616
Bendoraitis, John2024Performance Bonus$1,163,225
Bendoraitis, John2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$639,858
Bendoraitis, John2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,000,000
Bendoraitis, John Total$4,323,199
Canfield, Thomas C.2024Performance Bonus$939,063
Canfield, Thomas C.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$506,870
Canfield, Thomas C. Total$1,445,933
Christie III, Edward M.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$1,771,875
Christie III, Edward M.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$1,134,573
Christie III, Edward M.2024Performance Bonus$4,390,759
Christie III, Edward M.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$1,440,570
Christie III, Edward M. Total$8,737,777
Cromer, Frederick S.2024Performance Bonus$375,492
Cromer, Frederick S.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$277,508
Cromer, Frederick S.2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,200,000
Cromer, Frederick S. Total$1,853,000
Davis, Dave2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$2,900,000
Davis, Dave Total$2,900,000
Haralson, Scott M.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$1,410,000
Haralson, Scott M.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$600,837
Haralson, Scott M.2024Performance Bonus$270,000
Haralson, Scott M.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$171,350
Haralson, Scott M. Total$2,452,187
Klein, Matthew H.2023Performance Bonus (discretionary)$855,000
Klein, Matthew H.2023Performance Non-Equity Incentive$574,571
Klein, Matthew H.2024Performance Bonus$534,937
Klein, Matthew H.2024Performance Non-Equity Incentive$527,036
Klein, Matthew H. Total$2,491,544
McMenamy, Brian J.2024Performance Bonus$105,750
McMenamy, Brian J. Total$105,750
Wiggins, Rocky2025Bankruptcy Retention Bonus$1,000,000
Wiggins, Rocky Total$1,000,000
Grand Total$25,309,390


Let’s start here.
I am with you "in spirit" on the full pay to the last day; however, it may be a necessity to explore concessions as a means to protect your retreat from the airline. I think it is much easier to get a job when you have a job. Just my thoughts today.
 
I am with you "in spirit" on the full pay to the last day; however, it may be a necessity to explore concessions as a means to protect your retreat from the airline. I think it is much easier to get a job when you have a job. Just my thoughts today.
It potentially harms your pay prospects at the next airline, as you now have to compete against that concessionary rate.
 
“Spirit Airlines bosses want to cut pilots' union-negotiated pay as it seeks to recover from its second bankruptcy filing in under a year.

If the two sides can't reach a deal by October 1, Spirit could ask the courts to change or reject the union contract, under a section of Chapter 11 bankruptcy law.

[The MEC chair] said that past bankruptcy proceedings show there is "a significant advantage to reaching a consensual agreement" with the company, rather than letting the bankruptcy court impose terms.

‘Unfortunately, these are the tough calls we must make to emerge stronger,’ [CEO Dave] Davis said.”

The article calculates an average 30k per capita reduction in pay for the pilat group.


They’re also furloughing 1,800 flight attendants, which is approximately a third of that bargaining unit. Evidently they’d been running time off schemes for some time (they never went away after covid-time) and now find themselves overstaffed with big benefit bills.
 
Also consider the damage if the pilot group agrees to the concessions, then Frontier buys the place up to operate as a separate entity as opposed to merging the two airlines, then uses the Spirit contract to whipsaw the still negotiating Frontier group?

Not a good situation either way it goes.
 
Also consider the damage if the pilot group agrees to the concessions, then Frontier buys the place up to operate as a separate entity as opposed to merging the two airlines, then uses the Spirit contract to whipsaw the still negotiating Frontier group?

Not a good situation either way it goes.

Both Frontier and Spirit have language in their CBA that compels a merged seniority list (and contract) in the event of a buyout or a merger.
 
I am with you "in spirit" on the full pay to the last day; however, it may be a necessity to explore concessions as a means to protect your retreat from the airline. I think it is much easier to get a job when you have a job. Just my thoughts today.
They’re losing 200+ a quarter. 100 in concessions keeps the lights on a month or two, tops. They haven't turned a profit since 2019.
 
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Our junior flight attendants are naive unfortunately.. why can’t they furlough equitably from the top middle and bottom? And not everyone on the bottom?

Um.. that’s not how seniority works.
 
Our junior flight attendants are naive unfortunately.. why can’t they furlough equitably from the top middle and bottom? And not everyone on the bottom?

Um.. that’s not how seniority works.

This is giving my flashbacks of my own airline’s bankruptcy.
 
This is giving my flashbacks of my own airline’s bankruptcy.
I’m not there anymore and have no additional inside baseball to offer, but as someone who was one of the designated “responsible adults,” I’m actually far more inclined to agree with this sentiment:
Never EVER trust management.

Full pay to the last day...
…owing to the public, situation-specific facts which lay bare how much of a botch Spirit management have truly made of it, along with some real serious questions over whether the management group is actually going to turn it around.

“What’s the plan and who is funding same in the interim, and otherwise get bent” is a succinct expression of what I think about it.
 
Never EVER trust management.

Full pay to the last day...
I second this. Airline management is like a step below finance bros, to keep the gig and not be too "employee friendly", you need to be the kind of person that I refused to be. Fake as hell with much more self preservation than empathy and a willingness to sell what's best for the company as best for the employees even when it is a bold faced lie. CC would be a great airline manager tho, that is the personality it requires to be a good little minion.

A CP job would be cool tho so long as they don't expect you to act like a sociopath.
 
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