SFO - we are in training, mistakes will happen

[derg]

We have pro-standards but it is worthless and mostly deals with internal conflict anyway. Controllers (much like pilots) all think they know everything, and this includes the management and support specialists who develop training curricula. Our training basically consists of the regulations being read to us in power point form followed by simulation training that was developed by a controller or team of controllers with no background in education, followed by on the job training.

Imagine learning to fly whatever rig you fly now with no actual piloting experience until you sit down in the cockpit with a load of pax in the back. I've heard people say that the majority of controllers come up through smaller facilities, but that is not my experience. Anyone at a center probably started with zero experience at that center or another one. When I trained at the core-30 the majority of controllers there came up through there (this is starting to change but 10 years after the placement rules were changed). Furthermore, even if a controller does start at a smaller facility, the differences between a level 5 class D airport and a level 11 class B one are night and day, there is not a whole lot of direct skill translation, and what little there is is rendered moot because if you are an experienced transfer they reduce the number of training hours you are allotted to certify.

Sounds similar for aviation.

I wish we had Pro Stans 2.0 … with teeth.

The only time I’ve used them, the person in question literally cursed-out the PS rep that contacted him. But he still lives.

 

[tcco94]

SFO again lol shocker

 

[jhugz]

Sounds similar for aviation.

I wish we had Pro Stans 2.0 … with teeth.

The only time I’ve used them, the person in question literally cursed-out the PS rep that contacted him. But he still lives.

I like to call that management. I’ve done a lot of disciplinary work and worked with Pro Stan’s a lot. Pro Stan’s is a get out of jail free card, if you spit on it and rip it up, well then that’s FAFO time.