Air India plane crash

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
No, it’s addressed in the prelim report. Engines were at takeoff thrust until the switches were cutoff.
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Did I miss that? Honest question. I read it as "the airplane reached a speed of 180kts and the switches were turned to cutoff"

I read it on my phone yesterday and I was exhausted so I am sure I missed it.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
NTSB moved to transfer the investigation to the FBI. The Egyptians refused. The NTSB knew the FO crashed the aircraft intentionally. They didn't know why. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens with this crash as well.

Frankly I'm just happy this isn't a Boeing issue. For numerous reasons.
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Same. Although I knew it wasn't a Boeing issue, I think most did. That initial BS ChatGPT report saying that water from the GPU was ingested and fried both FADECs was so crazy but lots of people bought into it. Hell, half of my VX new hire chat group argued with me that this was for sure the issue and AI was figuring out how to soften the blow against Boeing so they could get discounts on aircraft orders lol.
 
Inverted said:
Same. Although I knew it wasn't a Boeing issue, I think most did. That initial BS ChatGPT report saying that water from the GPU was ingested and fried both FADECs was so crazy but lots of people bought into it. Hell, half of my VX new hire chat group argued with me that this was for sure the issue and AI was figuring out how to soften the blow against Boeing so they could get discounts on aircraft orders lol.
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BA stonks jumped up 5% a few days ago. Before the report was released. I knew it wasn’t a BA issue after that.

People are idiots. In general. I posted the report on Facebook and a non pilot acquaintance is absolutely berating everyone with a service bulletin that he doesn’t understand.

It’s not even worth discussing with pilots. My friend at Boeing is generally the only person I’ll discuss stuff like this with. You should have heard his rant about Alaska and autobrakes. He flies on us regularly lol.
 
Inverted said:
Did I miss that? Honest question. I read it as "the airplane reached a speed of 180kts and the switches were turned to cutoff"

I read it on my phone yesterday and I was exhausted so I am sure I missed it.
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States that the engine N1 and N2 began to decrease only after the fuel supply was cut off. That seems to me to indicate that the thrust had not decreased ahead of time.

Also of note, time between air/ground sensors moving to air mode and fuel cutoff was 3 seconds. 3 seconds is a lot quicker than people want to realize. It takes you longer to read this this post than that time.
 
bbmikej said:
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States that the engine N1 and N2 began to decrease only after the fuel supply was cut off. That seems to me to indicate that the thrust had not decreased ahead of time.

Also of note, time between air/ground sensors moving to air mode and fuel cutoff was 3 seconds. 3 seconds is a lot quicker than people want to realize. It takes you longer to read this this post than that time.
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Yep my bad. I was on no sleep, totally missed it.
 
Inverted said:
Yep, we are the only ones that have issues because we are the only ones that overcomplicate it and NOBODY seems to understand it here. So weird.
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Yet I jumpseated on Delta and they did AB3 on a 737-900ER at LAX on a dry runway with a 10 knot headwind.

Sometimes you just can’t win.
 
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