AA Engine Fire in DEN

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Each jetway or every other jetway, has a 150 to 300 pound wheeled sodium bicarb or potassium bicarb fire extinguisher located under the entrance to the jetway. I wonder if any of the rampers utilized one.
 
Passengers in the over wing exits probably don’t know there isn’t a slide. A couple people go out and the rest follow.

To the point I was neither on board nor know much about 'in-the-moment' reactions -- but is a part of the crew briefing those in the exit row to toss up an arms-crossed "X" if an emergency exit does not look safe? We've done that in the drills sometimes, but again, those are drills.

Also after another look, it appears the port wing was utilized, right wing looked fairly smoked.
 
Why not use the slide?

I mean use the other exits, obviously. Lol

Got to wonder where the flight attendants were
So there's probably going to be another aviation incident in the next few days that makes the news. They happen all the time, but the public is fearful right now so the news is reporting everything. When that next incident happens, take a breath and try to NOT 1) assign blame and 2) solve the issue. I'm telling you don't have the knowledge or the experience to do either of those, so stop. Or don't, whatever
 
Maybe I'm missing something obvious (it's been a day) but If this plane was parked and shut down when the fire broke out, they wouldn't have had hydraulic power to dump the flaps to 40.



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It looks like one ramper used a hose


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Good. That ground fuel fire is fairly easily controlled, if not fully extinguished, by one of those wheeled units (a giant external pressure fire extinguisher with large metal wheels and a 25 or so foot hose). They easily have the reach to hit the fire area from 20+ feet away, so someone without fire PPE doesn’t have to get close. It’s why they’re there.
 
Just saw one of the videos. The heavy white/purple “smoke” you see is potassium bicarb powder, known as purple k, from the jetway extinguisher, a 300-350lb wheeled unit like I mentioned. A heck of a lot of agent in one of those units, if you’ve never seen one discharged firsthand.
 
This picture from AvHerald.

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Am guessing few, if any, here have opened the emergency exits on an airliner from the outside, or even possibly primary doors from outside for that matter, but there’s a funny story with it.

The 737 Jurassic (100/200) and Classic (300/400/500) use the standard plug-type doors for the overwing emergency exits. When opening them up from the outside, we’d actuate the door mechanism while being up close to the door, press it inward a bit, then remove the whole door assembly through the hole towards us, and place it on the wing forward of the opening, then proceed with whatever we were then going to do.

When the NG and later MAX came out (600 onward) the overwing exit featured a new design that was hinged on the top side and spring loaded as it opened outward and upward, remaining connected to the top of the exit opening, as can be seen here in the picture. When opening this door externally, we’d do the same thing manipulating the external opening handle, which unlocks the door, however there’s one key difference that needed to be done opening it from the outside, and that was to ground one boot on the wing top while pressing a knee into the door as the opening mechanism was being actuated. If one failed to do that and opened the actuator as they would a plug door on the Classic, the door would spring outward/upward, and the unfortunate firefighter would get the equivalent of a boxer’s uppercut punch to the gut as the spring mechanism did its thing. Was always funny to see happen to the uninitiated or those working too fast and not properly. 😂
 
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