Life Guard Accident in Hawaii 12/16/2022
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FlyingAccountant
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That's why I'm sort of anxious for the TNflygirl report, because I'm sure she was running multiple GoPros at the time. Not that the cause of that one is any sort of mystery.
ahw01
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How many you got champ?
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
You...didn't do a standby power landing in any of them?
I sure have:(edited, went back and thought about it)
- EMB145 IQ
- EMB120 IQ
- ERJ170 IQ
- A320 IQ
- King Air 350 IQ
- 757/767 IQ
So everyone but the CRJ program did it, basically.
DeltaAlphaNovember
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I did a standby power landing in the CRJ 200 back in my PSA days. It was during my sim training when I came back from furlough.You...didn't do a standby power landing in any of them?
(edited, went back and thought about it)
- EMB145 IQ
- EMB120 IQ
- ERJ170 IQ
- A320 IQ
- King Air 350 IQ
- 757/767 IQ
So everyone but the CRJ program did it, basically.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
I guess it's not actually required for a type rating per my quick perusal of the ACS, but for the most part it's something you at least get to see if not actually do.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
I don't think I have either. We do have to do unreliable airspeed training in the 777 which is the hardest thing I have had to do in an airplane. We do it in our UPRT training.You...didn't do a standby power landing in any of them?
(edited, went back and thought about it)
- EMB145 IQ
- EMB120 IQ
- ERJ170 IQ
- A320 IQ
- King Air 350 IQ
- 757/767 IQ
So everyone but the CRJ program did it, basically.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
None.
But to be fair, I took the quickest route possible to the airlines at the time: 3 checkrides only. Private, Instrument, and then initial Commercial in a ME. Then a CRJ course in Florida which led to an airline interview.
Nope, not at all. Partial panel shouldn’t be a deadly event.
ahw01
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Far enough. I did 10 checkrides, so a few easter eggs. private multi, seaplanez, CFI etc. Only had one pink slip which isn't bad going...
Pilot Fighter
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More and more GA folks are using synthetic vision iPhone/iPad applications as a backup. Is this becoming more common in the 91/135 world?
Lots of things went wrong in this case but an extra tool to help you keep things straight and level seems reasonable.
I can see use in commercial operations opening up a can of worms.
Lots of things went wrong in this case but an extra tool to help you keep things straight and level seems reasonable.
I can see use in commercial operations opening up a can of worms.
T/O w/FSII
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And a guy with 9 checkride failures shouldn’t be a deadly event either.
Because he’s got an office job and isn’t in an airplane anymore.
T/O w/FSII
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Well you have to be ready for it. The iPad has to be mounted and can’t be moved, you have to have the internal or external AHRS aligned, the GPS set up, plugged into power, etc etc.
When your PFD fails and you have 9 checkride failures and you can’t even be bothered to look at the standby on the other side of the cockpit while hand flying I don’t this guy had the mental bandwidth to set up a iPad for survival.
FWIW, pretty common in big jet 135, but that’s because we’re nerds and had a big budget.
This operator couldn’t be bothered to MEL and fix the MFD which was required for single pilot ops but they had a video camera in the cockpit.
Things that make you go “huh”
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Not for accident investigation, but liability mitigation.
T/O w/FSII
Well-Known Member
That’s my point. They didn’t care about losing an entire crew as long as it was the “pilots fault”
EMS has suffered from the influx of lower time and lower experience pilots that the rest of aviation has. A job where you used to have to bring some serious hours and experience to the table, far above the stated minimums for the job in order to have a chance at getting hired; now has young, lower experience pilots with a narrow depth and breadth of aviation experience. Sadly, a number of back end medical crews, have paid the price for this, which they have no control over.
And the handwritten note from the pilot's wife telling him not to be forced into IMC by the "people in the back."
Pilot Fighter
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Folks in the back needed some notes.
Which is odd, as it’s usually the people in the back who are first to say no as it comes to launching.
Aye yi yi.