JFK incursion - it’s like they’re not even trying anymore

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
You serious?


Wait til you find out about a VOR called CZI.
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Take a step back.

Read what you wrote, then think about it. How do you think that would land with a female coworker, a group of women interested in the job you do, etc? You equate an airplane and the systems of that airplane to physiological and biological traits of a woman? Half of which you made up to sound funny? You demean woman, and this is another example.

Off the top of my head you make quips about successful women "sleeping their way" to advancement. You have said several times on here that your wife is not interested in voting, yet you fill out the ballot for her. Why do you not respect her wishes and just let her not vote? There is a well documented trend on this site of your feelings towards women.

So to answer you question, yes I am serious.
 
amorris311 said:
Take a step back.

Read what you wrote, then think about it. How do you think that would land with a female coworker, a group of women interested in the job you do, etc? You equate an airplane and the systems of that airplane to physiological and biological traits of a woman? Half of which you made up to sound funny? You demean woman, and this is another example.

Off the top of my head you make quips about successful women "sleeping their way" to advancement. You have said several times on here that your wife is not interested in voting, yet you fill out the ballot for her. Why do you not respect her wishes and just let her not vote? There is a well documented trend on this site of your feelings towards women.

So to answer you question, yes I am serious.
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Disingenuous take. It’s well known that planes are given a female connotation. Eg, the guy above saying that she is ugly in regards to the A380. It was literally this, and written in jest about an airplane being temperamental (which the Airbus was, moreso than the Boeing, if only because of far many more computers).

The only person I recall saying slept to the top was the current VP Kamala Harris, who admitted her relationship with Willie, was open about it, and how he helped her land crucial roles that was the start of her real career. She’s put all that out in the open.

As for voting, it’s a right earned after much spilled blood. One would be wise to have their voice heard. Having someone vote is not disrespecting her. It’s her chance to have her voice count. Women suffrage is a thing, why let it go to waste?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Disingenuous take. It’s well known that planes are given a female connotation. Eg, the guy above saying that she is ugly in regards to the A380. It was literally this, and written in jest about an airplane being temperamental (which the Airbus was, moreso than the Boeing, if only because of far many more computers).

The only person I recall saying slept to the top was the current VP Kamala Harris, who admitted her relationship with Willie, was open about it, and how he helped her land crucial roles that was the start of her real career. She’s put all that out in the open.

As for voting, it’s a right earned after much spilled blood. One would be wise to have their voice heard. Having someone vote is not disrespecting her. It’s her chance to have her voice count. Women suffrage is a thing, why let it go to waste?
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Did your wives life truly start, when she started living her vocation as a wife, a mother and a homemaker?
 
///AMG said:
Congrats on flying a girl Boeing :)
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The GE90 makes up for that.
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
We married young. I was 25, she was 21. So when we were married, she was finishing her degree and was babysitting for a family at the time for a little extra money.
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You say you married young as if it was a choice, if your current wife hadn't been available your wife might've been 18. You can't say you wouldn't have gone along with it. I respect your intelligence and the effort it took to get to the left seat, but when I think that you and your wife were forced to marry by your families I lose all respect. The one beautiful thing that can't be taken away or forced in life is love. It's hard to find and despite their best efforts your parents won't find it for you. You've never even loved and lost, you just sit in some sort of murky emotional middle ground. You make the the sex, and the kids come out, the parents are happy and the phone calls stop. It sounds like a horrible life.
 
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knot4u said:
You say you married young as if it was a choice, if your current wife hadn't been available your wife might've been 18. You can't say you wouldn't have gone along with it. I respect your intelligence and the effort it took to get to the left seat, but when I think that you and your wife were forced to marry by your families I lose all respect. The one beautiful thing that can't be taken away or forced in life is love. It's hard to find and despite their best efforts your parents won't find it for you. You've never even loved and lost, you just sit in some sort of murky emotional middle ground. You make the the sex, and the kids come out, the parents are happy and the phone calls stop. It sounds like a horrible life.
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Where do you make up these fantasy stories in your head?



In order, trying to correct your false statements:

It was a choice.

Don’t get the age 18 comment. She was in Michigan, and our families knew of each other through other mutual family friends. In this culture, connections and word of mouth are huge. It wasn’t some random chance. We were introduced through family friends. This is actually common in a lot of Asian cultures.


NOT forced to marry. Voluntary choice by both.



Love can’t be taken away? LOL. In a country where love marriages have resulted in… wait for it…. 50%+ divorce rate.


Mine wasn’t arranged as my parents were. In the olden days, my parents met each other, spoke for 30 minutes over a dinner, went to their parents and said yup we’ll get married. That was 1980, 44 yrs now, 4 boys raised successfully, and still together in love.


Me, I met her in a June 2009, married Sept 2009 in 4 months. I did get to know her before marriage, it wasn’t as quick as my parents were in the old gen. And despite your commentary/suggestion, we do love each other. Kids came later.



How about you? I recall you were married but not anymore? What happened there? You judge me, I wonder if you judge yourself?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Where do you make up these fantasy stories in your head?



In order, trying to correct your false statements:

It was a choice.

Don’t get the age 18 comment. She was in Michigan, and our families knew of each other through other mutual family friends. In this culture, connections and word of mouth are huge. It wasn’t some random chance. We were introduced through family friends. This is actually common in a lot of Asian cultures.


NOT forced to marry. Voluntary choice by both.



Love can’t be taken away? LOL. In a country where love marriages have resulted in… wait for it…. 50%+ divorce rate.


Mine wasn’t arranged as my parents were. In the olden days, my parents met each other, spoke for 30 minutes over a dinner, went to their parents and said yup we’ll get married. That was 1980, 44 yrs now, 4 boys raised successfully, and still together in love.


Me, I met her in a June 2009, married Sept 2009 in 4 months. I did get to know her before marriage, it wasn’t as quick as my parents were in the old gen. And despite your commentary/suggestion, we do love each other. Kids came later.



How about you? I recall you were married but not anymore? What happened there? You judge me, I wonder if you judge yourself?
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If Pinnacle wanted you to have a wife, Phil Trenary would have issued you one.
 
BobDDuck said:
I know you are being pedantic, but it's pretty obvious from the context that BTV is a thing, not a place. And nobody really cares that you know the 3 letter identifier for Burlington, VT.
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Yeah, but THAT point/thing/observation about the identifier was NOT engendered by me. I was just responding to ONE OF YOU. Read the rest of the thread.

That said, I get it. I'm your Whipping Boy. Do YOU know where THAT term comes from? What "engendered" THAT term? Well, do ya?

100:1, you'll go look that up on the toobs now. (And if you don't, you should.)
 
knot4u said:
You say you married young as if it was a choice, if your current wife hadn't been available your wife might've been 18. You can't say you wouldn't have gone along with it. I respect your intelligence and the effort it took to get to the left seat, but when I think that you and your wife were forced to marry by your families I lose all respect. The one beautiful thing that can't be taken away or forced in life is love. It's hard to find and despite their best efforts your parents won't find it for you. You've never even loved and lost, you just sit in some sort of murky emotional middle ground. You make the the sex, and the kids come out, the parents are happy and the phone calls stop. It sounds like a horrible life.
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You're looking at this with American eyes. This is a cultural issue and frankly whatever he does is really none of your business. Lastly marrying for love when it comes with humans is actually a rather new concept, relatively in human history.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
You're looking at this with American eyes. This is a cultural issue and frankly whatever he does is really none of your business. Lastly marrying for love when it comes with humans is actually a rather new concept, relatively in human history.
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Yeah it’s a weird flex like he’s trying to get him to be embarrassed about having an arranged marriage. Tons of Pakistanis and Indians in SoCal have married that way. If he’s that bewildered by them it’s reflective of his narrow world view.
 
CFI A&P said:
What if the shoe was on the other foot and this included stereotypes or derogatory punchlines about middle-Eastern men? How would that go over?
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Again a disingenuous take. Airplanes are given female connotations.

Same thread above, a guy wrote he flies a Boeing with no trim wheel, and it was followed up by a comment of oh so you fly a girl Boeing.

No one was offended, because I did not write that.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
You're looking at this with American eyes. This is a cultural issue and frankly whatever he does is really none of your business. Lastly marrying for love when it comes with humans is actually a rather new concept, relatively in human history.
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Skåning said:
Yeah it’s a weird flex like he’s trying to get him to be embarrassed about having an arranged marriage. Tons of Pakistanis and Indians in SoCal have married that way. If he’s that bewildered by them it’s reflective of his narrow world view.
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I’m not sure in this day and age (including mine in 2009) is truly arranged. It’s basically an introduction through family friends, someone who knew someone, and suggested them. It’s really no different than if a girl sets up her best friend with a guy she knew from somewhere, and they end up getting married. It’s not really arranged.


Arranged marriage, as I’ve understood it to be, was when parents would reach out to other parents, find a potential match, let the kids talk for 1-2 days, and then if both kids said yes, you were married. In my case it was sort of like hey we know a family in Michigan, why don’t you go meet them? That was through family living in Canada at the time, since my wife’s family was Canadian and they used to live in the same neighborhood once as my mom’s sister.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Again a disingenuous take. Airplanes are given female connotations.

Same thread above, a guy wrote he flies a Boeing with no trim wheel, and it was followed up by a comment of oh so you fly a girl Boeing.

No one was offended, because I did not write that.
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Is it a disingenuous take, or is it that you’re situationally unaware ? I doubt the latter, because you’ve been called out on it repeatedly and still doing it.

This reminds me of a story from a former student of mine. He was a retired attorney, that happened to be Jewish, let’s call him Stan. One day Stan went to a dealership to buy a car, began negotiating, and the salesman told him that he’s “trying to Jew him down…”. A phrase we’ve all heard, not only is that inappropriate, but the salesman was tone deaf, totally clueless. It didn’t go well, the sales manager is involved, upper management comes down to assist…. Maybe even the owner of the dealership. Well, Stan walked out of there with that car for practically free.

The point of the story is that you might think these jabs are funny, and acceptable but you don’t know who the audience is.
 
CFI A&P said:
Is it a disingenuous take, or is it that you’re situationally unaware ? I doubt the latter, because you’ve been called out on it repeatedly and still doing it.

This reminds me of a story from a former student of mine. He was a retired attorney, that happened to be Jewish, let’s call him Stan. One day Stan went to a dealership to buy a car, began negotiating, and the salesman told him that he’s “trying to Jew him down…”. A phrase we’ve all heard, not only is that inappropriate, but the salesman was tone deaf, totally clueless. It didn’t go well, the sales manager is involved, upper management comes down to assist…. Maybe even the owner of the dealership. Well, Stan walked out of there with that car for practically free.

The point of the story is that you might think these jabs are funny, and acceptable but you don’t know who the audience is.
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False equivalence. That is someone calling out an individual directly. I’m talking airplanes, and Airplanes have used female connotations since a very long time. All this faux outrage, while commentary by other members here using similar female terms for planes went ignored.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Disingenuous take. It’s well known that planes are given a female connotation. Eg, the guy above saying that she is ugly in regards to the A380. It was literally this, and written in jest about an airplane being temperamental (which the Airbus was, moreso than the Boeing, if only because of far many more computers).
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Airplanes, like other vessels, are indeed referred to in a female gender tense. What you did was take it several steps further. I’ve never once heard anyone say that the airplane is acting like a woman’s menstrual cycle or any other leaps you took to describe an airplane. You once again hide behind, “I said it in jest” which shows your complete lack of self awareness or the fact you do not know, or respect women.

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
The only person I recall saying slept to the top was the current VP Kamala Harris, who admitted her relationship with Willie, was open about it, and how he helped her land crucial roles that was the start of her real career. She’s put all that out in the open
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She put that she slept her way to the top? Or that her relationship helped open doors in the early 1990’s? You fail to give her any credit for being admitted, and graduating from one of the best law schools in the country. Plus working her way up the political ladder. You do not like her, that’s your prerogative. However, you continue to peddle this narrative that she, and possibly other women, could not be successful unless they sleep their way to the top.

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
As for voting, it’s a right earned after much spilled blood. One would be wise to have their voice heard. Having someone vote is not disrespecting her. It’s her chance to have her voice count. Women suffrage is a thing, why let it go to waste?
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Because it is her choice? You feel you know better than her so you exert yourself into her personal choice. A sure sign of disrespect.
 
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