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Even if AMF could actually afford these aircraft (I doubt that they can) the's be a launch customer have to deal with all the glitches that come along with it. Knowing the culture of AMF, I just don't see it. This would be different if it were a FedEx supported Mountain Air Cargo, but this is AMF. The company that just bought old-Saabs (that require two-pilots) over new Skycouriers that (require one pilot to my knowledge). This the company operating the oldest BE99's in the world. This is the company that only really added GPS to their fleet when it was convenient because they needed ADS-B anyways. I used to fly metros across the gulf of Mexico with an NDB/ADF as my only source of navigation. But this will be the company that hops on new technology!?
 
KLB said:
Even if AMF could actually afford these aircraft (I doubt that they can) the's be a launch customer have to deal with all the glitches that come along with it. Knowing the culture of AMF, I just don't see it. This would be different if it were a FedEx supported Mountain Air Cargo, but this is AMF. The company that just bought old-Saabs (that require two-pilots) over new Skycouriers that (require one pilot to my knowledge). This the company operating the oldest BE99's in the world. This is the company that only really added GPS to their fleet when it was convenient because they needed ADS-B anyways. I used to fly metros across the gulf of Mexico with an NDB/ADF as my only source of navigation. But this will be the company that hops on new technology!?
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Only legit counter I’ve heard so far in this thread. :)
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
We here have always surmised that 121 cargo would go autonomous first before 121 pax. At least we did a few years ago, I believe that, that was the general consensus. We'll of course agree to disagree, but I don't think fully autonomous 121 pax ops will occur in my lifetime. Or at least the next 2 decades. Will it happen? Maybe, probably. But I don't think many here will see it in their careers.
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If 121 cargo is ever automated I find it hard to believe 121 passenger will be far behind. But even if it isn't, if every cargo pilot is laid off that will cause enough competition for the remaining pilot jobs to usher in a permanent Lost Decade. Call it the Lost Millennium.
 
Anyone who thinks humans will omnipresent on the flight deck in the next 25 to 50 years hasn't pressed the "Automated Emergency Descent" button on a A350. It's about the scariest, most profound thing to see work.
 
KLB said:
Even if AMF could actually afford these aircraft (I doubt that they can) the's be a launch customer have to deal with all the glitches that come along with it. Knowing the culture of AMF, I just don't see it. This would be different if it were a FedEx supported Mountain Air Cargo, but this is AMF. The company that just bought old-Saabs (that require two-pilots) over new Skycouriers that (require one pilot to my knowledge). This the company operating the oldest BE99's in the world. This is the company that only really added GPS to their fleet when it was convenient because they needed ADS-B anyways. I used to fly metros across the gulf of Mexico with an NDB/ADF as my only source of navigation. But this will be the company that hops on new technology!?
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I can agree on this, to a point.

AMF's fleet is... well... old.. And to my knowledge, there is no inexpensive replacement option (enlighten me if I'm wrong here)

At the certain point of the technology adoption curve, it makes financial sense to jump a generation.

If AMF's financial situation is dire, making an early investment in a generation skip is a bit of a no brainer. Go for the latest tech and maybe be ahead of the game or maybe go bankrupt. Stay with the old fleet, and definitely go bankrupt.

To some, this is a hail mary play.
 
DropTank said:
Look rookie, you acting like your paragraph has no amazing new revelation on information that only you have.
To explain this to you, apparently I'll have to explain automation, statistics, and very basic engineering just to get to the point where you're just laughably wrong.

Move along, you're out of your league.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
So you don’t understand statistics and will make no effort to do so. Cool.
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You guys are kinda cranky about this. Natilus stockholders or what?
 
derg said:
Anyone who thinks humans will omnipresent on the flight deck in the next 25 to 50 years hasn't pressed the "Automated Emergency Descent" button on a A350. It's about the scariest, most profound thing to see work.
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Oooooh, that sounds cool.

JJ429PA said:
You guys are kinda cranky about this. Natilus stockholders or what?
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AI is a bit of a pet subject of mine, so yes, I’m a but passionate about it. For several reasons:

1. People literally die on a regular basis because humans are so terrible at consistently doing things correctly and safely.

2. People really shouldn’t be forced to do work when we can use technology to do work for us and devote our time to more enriching pursuits.

3. The development of AI is inevitable, and the people who develop it first will be more powerful than we were as the first country to develop the atomic bomb.

But no, I own no stock in any tech companies at all (besides what my index funds may own).
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
Oooooh, that sounds cool.



AI is a bit of a pet subject of mine, so yes, I’m a but passionate about it. For several reasons:

1. People literally die on a regular basis because humans are so terrible at consistently doing things correctly and safely.

2. People really shouldn’t be forced to do work when we can use technology to do work for us and devote our time to more enriching pursuits.

3. The development of AI is inevitable, and the people who develop it first will be more powerful than we were as the first country to develop the atomic bomb.

But no, I own no stock in any tech companies at all (besides what my index funds may own).
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So if automation is taking everyone's job, what's the solution? Government doesn't seem to keen on UBI. Also how is capitalism gonna continue, if no one has a job i.e. money to buy stuff in the future? Corporations need you to buy their stuff, so does the economy.
 
derg said:
Anyone who thinks humans will omnipresent on the flight deck in the next 25 to 50 years hasn't pressed the "Automated Emergency Descent" button on a A350. It's about the scariest, most profound thing to see work.
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220 tech was crap and that thing was an electrical nightmare. One small issue and having to reboot the airplane took an hour. God forbid the external power was “bad” or else that nightmare would turn into a multi-day sit trying to get it back up and running again.

350 seems to be a lot better with their technology.
 
arkflyr said:
Surprised you have to press a button to make it work. On the EASy2 Falcons it's automatic if installed no button pushing required.
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Well, if you have a rapid depressurization and you don't respond after a period of time, diver down baby!

Our instructor today doesn't believe in snapshotting, we had just finished training at FL300 and we wanted to do some touch and goes in JFK. "Here, watch this".

Autoreports via CPDLC, turns to parallel your course and BOOM.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
So if automation is taking everyone's job, what's the solution? Government doesn't seem to keen on UBI. Also how is capitalism gonna continue, if no one has a job i.e. money to buy stuff in the future? Corporations need you to buy their stuff, so does the economy.
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I think Manna by Marshall Brain is probably a good prediction of what the future will be like once automation renders most people obsolete. I don't see society tolerating a large number of structurally unemployed people, most of whom will end up homeless. So I think the unemployed being interned in something like the "Terrafoam" system in Manna is the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that the structurally unemployed will be exterminated, and one of the last remaining jobs may be some kind of task force that rounds up and "euthanizes" them.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
So if automation is taking everyone's job, what's the solution? Government doesn't seem to keen on UBI. Also how is capitalism gonna continue, if no one has a job i.e. money to buy stuff in the future? Corporations need you to buy their stuff, so does the economy.
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As usual, I'm less apocalyptic than @Yakob. :)

The government isn't keen on UBI because it isn't a necessity yet. Just like politicians aren't keen to raise the debt ceiling...right up until the moment that we're about to default on our national debt and plunge the world into a global depression. Politicians act when they have to act, and not a moment sooner. As soon as a large portion of the public is permanently unemployed, UBI will be an easy pass.
 
derg said:
Autoreports via CPDLC, turns to parallel your course and BOOM.
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I like that it parallels your course way better than what Dassault came up with which was a 90 degree turn. Better hope you wake up before you hit something depending on what part of the world you are in.

We had one of your retired guys as an instructor a few years ago that had been on that thing. It was like watching someone explain sex to an alien when he was telling some of our only flown a 737 guys about it.
 
Yakob said:

I think Manna by Marshall Brain is probably a good prediction of what the future will be like once automation renders most people obsolete. I don't see society tolerating a large number of structurally unemployed people, most of whom will end up homeless. So I think the unemployed being interned in something like the "Terrafoam" system in Manna is the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that the structurally unemployed will be exterminated, and one of the last remaining jobs may be some kind of task force that rounds up and "euthanizes" them.
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O-M-G, dude!
 
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