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Delta Echo
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Also how is the retirement contribution/match and are there any changes to the work schedule in regards to the day on/off cycle?
flynryan692
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I just updated the spreadsheet with the new payscale. $7853/mo is the starting pay, 20 year scale goes up to $14293/mo with license pay and longevity.
MountainsOrBeach
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Unless this has been amended again here it is, and its 10 yr… This is without the license pay that you receive after training. They also get a $3000 signing bonus and then $500 a month for 18 months just to go from Willis Tower to Arlington Heights. Even if they already live in Chicagoland. Bonus does not apply to January class or later.
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flynryan692
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Should probably clarify, the base pay scale is 10 years but at YOS 11 the longevity kicks in, goes up again in YOS 15 and again at YOS 20. So base scale is 10 years, longevity pushes it out to 20 but with only three raises after YOS 10 (11, 15, 20).
MT
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I won’t comment publicly on why. The membership voted and the letter was ratified. However that doesn’t mean that those of us not in favor can’t be displeased.
Squirrel
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You could also work a bid relief schedule.
But you have unlimited trading ability after you get signed off. So you can make your schedule what you want. Just have to find trade partners.
MT
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Does one work a bid relief schedule? Or does a bid relief schedule work you?
Just curious where the 7853 starting pay is coming from?
MT
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Direct match of DL starting pay.
flynryan692
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$7,161.00 base plus $692.25 license pay = $7,853.25
RegionalDXer
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What % pay bump was this for United? any other perks such as increased company match for 401k or anything?
MountainsOrBeach
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It seems like a pretty dang good raise for the newbies, but I don’t remember what the top out pay was before. Is it a significant raise for senior folks as well, just curious what else could be done better? Thanks.
I do know AA is now the lowest paying legacy of the big 3. And has the longest training period, with the toughest software to learn. On top of that they only start newbies at 79% of the pay so they’re making $64k for 6 months give or take, before finally making $81k, and then finally the license pay you receive after training. That’s now $20k less than UA and DL during training, and $10k+ less after training. After inflation even in DFW, $64k doesn’t go very far these days. I hope AA renegotiates soon and matches UA and DL.
RegionalDXer
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Look at the work schedules of AA vs the others… 4-3-4-4 and 8 hour shifts… you have much more time off or the ability to pick up more OT etc
MountainsOrBeach
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Wow the license pay is almost $700? I assumed it was around $370 or so like AA. Dang.