Incident at ISP

[NovemberEcho]

Don’t know any details yet but

 

[Roger Roger]

Uhhhh

 

[schloopy]

Someone went skidding on rollout maybe?

Where’s the rest of the Pilatus wing?

 

[Roger Roger]

Someone went skidding on rollout maybe?

Where’s the rest of the Pilatus wing?

Attached to the Hawker(?)’s right wing

 

[Burrito]

I'm at more "Is everyone OK?" with a wing missing, before I get to "How....?"

 

[NovemberEcho]

Someone went skidding on rollout maybe?

Where’s the rest of the Pilatus wing?

possible

 

[Roger Roger]

I'm at more "Is everyone OK?" with a wing missing, before I get to "How....?"

Neither fuselage looks breached and no evidence of fire, I would imagine other than needing clean pants everyone is ok

 

[Roger Roger]

I’m seeing engine covers on the jet, so kinda looks like the pilatus was the one moving

 

[Burrito]

So the Pilatus lands 33L, tries to get off at B1 and misses, or -- judging by the front-end loader doing their thing in that photo, makes B1 but it's an ice rink, and goes slipping into the Hawker ramp? Possible scenario.

Gonna edit this because 6 would've definitely been the better strip. Looking at aviationweather just on a whim here...

KISP 021408Z 0214/0312 08004KT P6SM BKN009
FM021500 09005KT P6SM SCT010 BKN035

So they take the left on Bravo but it's an ice rink maybe?...

 

[Murdoughnut]

There's a PC-12 N357JK that had a scheduled departure filed that appears to have the same livery as the aircraft here.

 

[derg]

Freaky!

 

[fholbert]

Date:	02-FEB-2022
Time:
Type:	Pilatus PC-12/47E
Owner/operator:	AGF Capital LLC
Registration:	N357JK
MSN:	1451
Fatalities:	Fatalities: 0 / Occupants:
Other fatalities:	0
Aircraft damage:	Substantial
Category:	Accident
Location:	Islip-Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP/KISP), NY - United States of America
Phase:	Taxi
Nature:	Private
Departure airport:
Destination airport:

Narrative:
A Pilatus PC-12/47E, N357JK, sustained substantial damage when it struck a parked Dassault Falcon jet at Islip-Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP/KISP), New York.
There were no reported injuries.

 

[fholbert]

Assume the PC-12 Islip on the icy pavement taxiing for departure.

 

[schloopy]

Date:	02-FEB-2022
Time:
Type:	Pilatus PC-12/47E
Owner/operator:	AGF Capital LLC
Registration:	N357JK
MSN:	1451
Fatalities:	Fatalities: 0 / Occupants:
Other fatalities:	0
Aircraft damage:	Substantial
Category:	Accident
Location:	Islip-Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP/KISP), NY - United States of America
Phase:	Taxi
Nature:	Private
Departure airport:
Destination airport:

Narrative:
A Pilatus PC-12/47E, N357JK, sustained substantial damage when it struck a parked Dassault Falcon jet at Islip-Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP/KISP), New York.
There were no reported injuries.

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So more likely an RTO on ice rather than landing, that makes more sense with the energy involved and location.

 

[fholbert]

So more likely an RTO on ice rather than landing, that makes more sense with the energy involved and location.

Agree, but seems like a lot of energy for a taxiing aircraft, especially when the prop can reverse thrust. The guy was going pretty fast for conditions.

 

[Roger Roger]

Yeah I can’t imagine how fast dude was going to rip a wing off a PC-12, they’re stout AF

 

[fholbert]

Here is the victim.

I'm thinking this and he couldn't make the turn. Lucky for the Jet Center, someone parked a Falcon to protect the hangar.

 

[schloopy]

Agree, but seems like a lot of energy for a taxiing aircraft, especially when the prop can reverse thrust. The guy was going pretty fast for conditions.

That’s what I’m saying, with that much energy I’m imagining no taxi at all, just a late RTO on 33L, excursion probably started around the taxiway turnoff. Still, that’s a massive distance to cover to where it ended up.

And obviously the caveat that I’m just a guy saying things on the internet.

 

[fholbert]

That’s what I’m saying, with that much energy I’m imagining no taxi at all, just a late RTO on 33L, excursion probably started around the taxiway turnoff. Still, that’s a massive distance to cover to where it ended up.

Could be.

 

[Roger Roger]

None of the scenarios suggested so far make sense in my brain for the combination of speed and angles of the two aircraft and the performance of a PC-12 vs the runway available.