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Also all this tech and why don’t we have synth vis yet? Especially in stuff like the 220 (I know it’s the Cannabus but still)

The 220 has very similar suite to the Global Vision. It is likely just the act of putting the 100k a piece code to activate it. It's interesting that the airlines don't do synthetic vision though. It adds so much situational awareness in the corporate jets that I have flown with it.
 
I've actually seen that as well......"stand up rules" they called it.

I see it virtually every engine start. Is this a no-no? News to me. The engines take long enough to start as is....you wait for the one start to be complete before starting the next? I'm confused.
 
The 220 has very similar suite to the Global Vision. It is likely just the act of putting the 100k a piece code to activate it. It's interesting that the airlines don't do synthetic vision though. It adds so much situational awareness in the corporate jets that I have flown with it.

Maybe once Radar Altimeters go away and we're hand flying every approach they'll start using it? Although it would probably be easier to find new frequencies for the RA to use.
 
I see it virtually every engine start. Is this a no-no? News to me. The engines take long enough to start as is....you wait for the one start to be complete before starting the next? I'm confused.

I don't think it hurts anything, per se. The start valve is already closed and the start is self sustained. Our expanded normals specify we're not to consider an engine "started" until the gray background goes away and the AVAIL indication is displayed. So by that measure it's not in accordance with our FAA approved procedure.

You can't do this on the LEAP NEOs because the start valves stay open until some silly N2 like 62% or something.
 
I don't think it hurts anything, per se. The start valve is already closed and the start is self sustained. Our expanded normals specify we're not to consider an engine "started" until the gray background goes away and the AVAIL indication is displayed. So by that measure it's not in accordance with our FAA approved procedure.

You can't do this on the LEAP NEOs because the start valves stay open until some silly N2 like 62% or something.

You had me wondering.....Looked in our manual, sure enough "Second engine may be started after the start valve on the first engine has closed." Don't see why it would harm anything....
 
Meh. Getting off the airplane after an hour sounds better.
Oh that’s totally the truth. Honestly my ideal leg length is around 30min or less. My corporate gig had a typical leg length of 15min and we had one destination where we had a whopping 6minutes of flight time between startup and shutdown.

One major advantage of my admittedly unorthodox path through professional flying was I never went through TSA to go to work. I never had to commute in any traditional sense, and when I did some math on my logbook, my average leg length was was about 45minutes.

I never flew an airplane with a bathroom, but if you don’t fly that long it’s not a problem.
 
Meh. Getting off the airplane after an hour sounds better.
When I was a child, I played as a child; when I became a man I gave up childish things. (Slight :sarcasm: )

I'm sure I could still do 8 legs a day, I just don't really want to anymore; three is enough, two is "just right." One-and-done today and tomorrow works too.

Oh that’s totally the truth. Honestly my ideal leg length is around 30min or less. My corporate gig had a typical leg length of 15min and we had one destination where we had a whopping 6minutes of flight time between startup and shutdown.
How many times a day did you do that? 'cause at airlines...
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Maybe once Radar Altimeters go away and we're hand flying every approach they'll start using it? Although it would probably be easier to find new frequencies for the RA to use.

It is super useful. I do not like RAAS though. That is something that I can do without. It is more distracting than anything.
 
How many times a day did you do that? 'cause at airlines...

Same thing for us.

Flying 135, I did more than a few 25 leg days. I think my record is 28? Can’t remember.

At my corporate gig I did 15 or 16 legs a couple times - took a full day, but it was only like 4 ot 5 hours of flying.

I dunno, I like flying, landings, approached, and maneuvering the airplane. I’ve never been so bored as “in cruise with autopilot on” on a flight back from Adam to Anchorage in the Pilatus…
 
I dunno, I like flying, landings, approached, and maneuvering the airplane. I’ve never been so bored as “in cruise with autopilot on” on a flight back from Adam to Anchorage in the Pilatus…
Fair enough. I did a 6-leg 350 day when I was on leave and that was enough flying for the day, especially since it was dead heat of summer in South Florida.

There's a happy medium somewhere.
 
Fair enough. I did a 6-leg 350 day when I was on leave and that was enough flying for the day, especially since it was dead heat of summer in South Florida.

There's a happy medium somewhere.

Totally, if the day is short - like an 8hr day, around 5 or so 45min legs is great. Stay busy, don’t actually work too hard.

If the day is really long or there is a lot of loading with each leg… then it can be a drag.

It was pretty cool to do a day with 12 legs to mins in the otter. Like every approach was within 50’ or less of mins.
 
Totally, if the day is short - like an 8hr day, around 5 or so 45min legs is great. Stay busy, don’t actually work too hard.

If the day is really long or there is a lot of loading with each leg… then it can be a drag.

It was pretty cool to do a day with 12 legs to mins in the otter. Like every approach was within 50’ or less of mins.
Yeah, getting pooped on with pre-117 max duty days with min overnights back to back really beat some of the enthusiasm out of it.

Oh yes, of course there's flow to San Francisco...
 
When I was a child, I played as a child; when I became a man I gave up childish things. (Slight :sarcasm: )

I'm sure I could still do 8 legs a day, I just don't really want to anymore; three is enough, two is "just right." One-and-done today and tomorrow works too.


How many times a day did you do that? 'cause at airlines...

Meh, when you have some serious bidding horsepower, you can avoid too many legs and too many hours. Plus half the landings are in no-hassle places like Fargo and Kansas City. Plus you have 50-100 fewer people per flight that can harbor the next YouBewb sensation.

Plus the air conditioning is super legit.

Plus/minus only one time zone.

And most of the FOs aren't in that "angry at everything" phase just yet.

But hey man, you do you.
 
The nice part about the bus is if you don't remember (when the spoilers can be out), it'll remember for you.

Only in A.FLOOR

Can’t count the times guys would have spoilers out, yet the power wasn’t at idle. (Especially in managed descent). Grrrrr.

This is much less likely in the 737, when the Autothrottle is in ARM it won’t wake up until -15 kts. So you can have spoilers out with good idle power. In the Bus though, I saw a lot more spoilers out yet the power wasn’t idle. “What you tryin to do?”
 
My favorite is when people try to control the speed with V/S in a descent.

- Assigned 210 knots, selects V/S -1500
- speed starts running away to 212, 215, 220
- deploys speed brakes
- doesn't do anything
- rumbling
- still going 220

- "You know, if you would just click the V/S knob one or two times it would stop doing that"

- still rumbling

"Or you know, pull an open descent

- "stupid Airbus"

- "sigh"
 
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