BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I'm obviously not getting the joke then.
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I'm obviously not getting the joke then.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
That there's no critical engine in a jet...
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
I dunno. They're all critical in the Cirrus jet.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Are you being Cirrus right now???
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Beech, please.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Vmc is the "most critical" engine. In most jets either engine could be the most critical one.
I still don't think you are getting it as far as thrust goes.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
You Fokker, why you gotta Trent him like this?
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Probably not in terms of jets. That's not my wheel house, yet. In my current world the cricital engine is always usually the left engine on a piston. Then its about determining the four factors that used to determine the critical engine. In a plane with props rotating clockwise. 1.) P Factor. 2.) Accelerated slipstream/asymmetric thrust. 3.) Spiraling slipstream and 4.) Torque.
BTW, again... you do know that my original comment was said totally in jest. Right? Right?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Everyone knows the critical engine on any passenger jetliner is the forward coffee maker. If that thing isn’t working, we ain’t going anywhere.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Kind of... but the thing you were joking about (jets not having a critical engine) isn't really a thing.
And yes, it's normally the left on props, but the issue I was talking about was that a JT8-9 generates LESS thrust than a later generation model (what Mike was talking about), and therefore would be less likely to cause Vmc issues.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
I’m approaching Susan Collins levels of concern (possibly higher) about the quality of multi-engine instruction apparently available.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Have you read that exciting new book called. "How to have an actual life as an airline pilot, outside aviation."
Its a fantastic and fascinating read, lol.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Granted it’s a little silly in an airline context because V1 > Vmcg, Vr > Vmca and Vref > Vmcl by certification, but still.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
If you’re not good at your current job how can I expect you to be good at your new job? I don’t think it’s silly at all.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Oh, of course; no disagreement.
of course I was skimming, so I originally read this as “hmmph….how can questions on visual meteorological conditions be that difficult for an instructor?”
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
I strenuously agree.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
"It's either VMC or it's not.....so which is it? What's there to talk about here?"
msmspilot
Well-Known Member
Hey, I flew 135 cargo. It’s too bad to go IFR so we’ll have to go VFR happens.
I’m told.