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Maximilian_Jenius said:
Serious question, why do you always want to know/listen to the most drama and horrid stuff? Like I read that an I was like okay, I'm good. At no time was I like damn, I need to listen to that. "Gotta link?"

You really like macabre stuff, don't you?
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Listen to it? No. But I’m curious about the news story/link article.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Listen to it? No. But I’m curious about the news story/link article.
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Lol, why though? Anytime someone post something about airline, flight school drama, you want to get a link. I mean you asked for a link of a dude who killed himself. You should look into that. Lol. The why's you want to be a fly of the wall to certain types of behaviors. You're the Wendy Williams of JC. "How you doin'?"
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
Lol, why though? Anytime someone post something about airline, flight school drama, you want to get a link. I mean you asked for a link of a dude who killed himself. You should look into that. Lol. The why's you want to be a fly of the wall to certain types of behaviors. You're the Wendy Williams of JC. "How you doin'?"
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It’s an aviation accident, so I’m interested by default.

I think you psycho-analyze way too much and find things that aren’t there. I would check that once you get into a flight deck.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
It’s an aviation accident, so I’m interested by default.

I think you psycho-analyze way too much and find things that aren’t there. I would check that once you get into a flight deck.
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Ugh... there was NO psychoanalyzation. I simply asked a question. Others have also at times here asked the same question, regarding your need to be a fly on the wall, when it comes to drama.
 
I worked at a flight school in high school and noticed an extra set of aircraft keys in the cabinet. Turns out they belonged to a C152 that a suicidal solo student took out one day and plowed into the local mountain. I think it’s more common in GA than is talked about and mental health reform is sorely needed.
 
inigo88 said:
I worked at a flight school in high school and noticed an extra set of aircraft keys in the cabinet. Turns out they belonged to a C152 that a suicidal solo student took out one day and plowed into the local mountain. I think it’s more common in GA than is talked about and mental health reform is sorely needed.
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This wasn’t in southern CA by any chance…?
 
inigo88 said:
I worked at a flight school in high school and noticed an extra set of aircraft keys in the cabinet. Turns out they belonged to a C152 that a suicidal solo student took out one day and plowed into the local mountain. I think it’s more common in GA than is talked about and mental health reform is sorely needed.
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Ain't that the truth. Not sure at all if it was the case in this situation, but imagine a student pilot suffering from depression being told they have to discontinue their anti depressants if they want to have any chance of carving out a career in their field of study. That's where the FAA has us.
 
inigo88 said:
I worked at a flight school in high school and noticed an extra set of aircraft keys in the cabinet. Turns out they belonged to a C152 that a suicidal solo student took out one day and plowed into the local mountain. I think it’s more common in aviation than is talked about and mental health reform is sorely needed.
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Fixed it for you, and you'd hope that the alphabet soup advocacy groups (several of which I am a member of) would all be in alignment thereon, but alas.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Fixed it for you, and you'd hope that the alphabet soup advocacy groups (several of which I am a member of) would all be in alignment thereon, but alas.
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I think the alphabet groups celebrated the FAA's decision to allow certain SSRIs as a win, while skipping over the part where it's still a hurdle to get that approval, if a pilot's circumstances qualify at all.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I think the alphabet groups celebrated the FAA's decision to allow certain SSRIs as a win, while skipping over the part where it's still a hurdle to get that approval, if a pilot's circumstances qualify at all.
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The problem with mental health is that the evaluation part is relatively “squishy”. Go in and have a high blood pressure, and there’s some objective evidence. Corrective actions will or will not solve the problem.

Mental health, OTOH, almost always involves someone(s) opinion(s). Everyone is pretty familiar with Bob Hoover’s issue with the Feds, and now multiply that over the entire pilot population, and you see the magnitude of the problem, especially when even if someone is ok, ONE dissenter will ground that person for an indefinite time, and essentially reset the process.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I think the alphabet groups celebrated the FAA's decision to allow certain SSRIs as a win, while skipping over the part where it's still a hurdle to get that approval, if a pilot's circumstances qualify at all.
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Another problem is that their list of approved SSRIs is extremely limited. The ones they approve don't work for me.
 
roundout said:
Quite a different tone of sadness if this was (another) suicide. We had one in 2000 or 2001 with a guy who'd just received his second DUI. Took a Seminole down to Rapid City, rolled it inverted, and pulled.
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Not uncommon. There was the Riddle CFI who stole the Seminole in the middle of the night, flew around for a bit, came back via an ILS to the runway where tower noticed he was high and asked if he’d be able to make the runway. Pilot said this “will be his final landing”, nosed the bird over to near vertical at full power, and impacted the runway.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
Serious question, why do you always want to know/listen to the most drama and horrid stuff? Like I read that an I was like okay, I'm good. At no time was I like damn, I need to listen to that. "Gotta link?"

You really like macabre stuff, don't you?
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keep in mind, you have a very different perspective on the macabre than the average pilot, especially with regards to psychological tragedies (given your line of work)…for “most” people, its a human interest piece, like so many others any media likes to splash all over, because they are “interesting” depictions of what most see as outlier events. For other people, its a terrible illustration of a failed mental healthcare system and the devastating effects it can create. For those people, we dont care to read about its failures…only things thats are positively contributing to the solution.
 
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