Morbid curiosity. Upgrade times?

Pensions are worthless until Congress protects them.

No offense and I know I’ll get slack for saying this, but the idea that a company should pay you long after you stop working for them is silly. You mean you work 30 yrs, retire, and live another 30 years so they pay you 60 yrs for working 30? During which they are also paying for the next guy working 30 years while you are retired?

Don’t get me wrong, what happened post 9/11 sucked. Those guys nearing retirement had every expectation they would be getting a pension check. It was ridiculous to have them obliterated.

In today’s world? No thank you. I’ll take my fully vested 401K with a DC anyway of the week. That way if my company goes poof, my retirement doesn’t. And I would even sign a paper that says I will demand nothing and accept no payment from the government at 67 if it means I could stop paying 6.2% SS now and instead take 6.2% of my money and invest it in index funds of my choice. Would never happen, because this isn’t about my social security, it’s about the security of those already retired, using my tax money.


Management thanks you for your subservience.

And I thank them for the stability (so far) and 300k+ career.
 
That's because your contract has garbage work rules.



That's because SWAPA is nothing but a bunch of hoes who haven't figured out over the decades that it's better to get soft time for no work. In fact, SWAPA led the way on this, and it caused the gutting of the other legacy contracts in the post-9/11 world. Now the legacies are filled with former regional guys who never knew any better, so the good contracts have been lost. And you cheer it on.

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No offense and I know I’ll get slack for saying this, but the idea that a company should pay you long after you stop working for them is silly.

That’s not how an A-Fund pension is supposed to work. The problem is that you’re only familiar with the post-Reagan pensions that he gutted and allowed companies to chronically underfund. Pensions were originally fully funded so that the money grew and was there for you when you retired.
 
So unless the contract is written that way. On the day of, our airline doesn’t look at seniority. It looks at day availability (eg, matching 4 days available to a 4 day trip) and the guy with the lowest credit. That’s who get the trip. Why keep pounding the junior guys with trips getting them to 75 hrs while leaving some senior fart at 0? Doesn’t make financial sense. They use them out somewhat evenly.

Credit not a factor here.
For Short Call Reserves at my shop it’s first to matching available days. If that ties it goes to the earliest legal start time, and if that ties it goes to the senior pilot (unless electing pass). The senior pilot can pass to a junior one if all else ties.
 
Credit not a factor here.
For Short Call Reserves at my shop it’s first to matching available days. If that ties it goes to the earliest legal start time, and if that ties it goes to the senior pilot (unless electing pass). The senior pilot can pass to a junior one if all else ties.

Day before, matching days within RAP. Then it’s supposed to be seniority I think, but practice is guy with lowest credit (if day match was a tie).

Day of, anyone. Day matching first and lower credit guy is what they still look at, but anything goes.
 
I mean, we’re talking about pilots during the course of their jobs. Quite a stretch to go to Trump in that one.

Not really, we're talking about pilots here. Have you met pilots before? I spent a 2 hr. flight to KPRC a few yrs back listening to my then CFI complain about how much smarter and how much better of a pilot he was than all the other CFI's in the company. Also how the owner who flies for WN, is a complete idiot. And how he could run the business better than him and be more profitable. Ran into him the other day at the airport, he saw me climbing into a Seneca.

Him: "You're getting your multi?"

Me: "Yeah, I went to a pilot mill, after we stopped flying together and got my ratings."

Him: "Congrats to your CFI, he must have had a lot of patience with you." (Laughter)

Me: :rolleyes:
 
Day of, anyone. Day matching first and lower credit guy is what they still look at, but anything goes.

Is that due to some vague language in the contract? Our day of assignment process is listed clearly just as I posted above. They get slight vagueness here when factoring in delays, but besides that It’s as described above.
 
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