American Leads with 150K Bonuses

CFIT99 said:
is “pop” code for bath salts?
And “posted” code for “did more bath salts”?
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Apparently lime pop packs quite a wallop. Maybe Dacuj is a tiger.
 
I would also point out that the engines-under-wing, it's-got-first-class, vacuum-pooper, VNAV-fitted slatted wonder that is the EMB-170/175 is not exactly distinguishable other than the fine print of "operated by" to the average consumer from the mainline product anyway.

(none of this should be construed as knocking the airplane - the labor conditions are the problem, not the jet itself)
 
Dacuj said:
As many of you have heard by now, Envoy pilots will be receiving 150k in retention bonuses. This is a shock and awe strategy AA is doing that will further cement Envoy and AA as the new American. It will completely throw Delta and United off and word is they have already been caught off guard by this. Trying to feed their airline with inferior product just became 10 times harder.
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receiving and eligible for are two different things. i doubt Delta is concerned with inferior product nor are they inferior. nothing better out of Minny. While Delta and United may be worried about many things i doubt one of them is feeding their airline.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
I mean, I flew for one of them for 7 years, so don't think I forgot them. It's simply not an issue for me, usually. They serve tiny leisure markets that I don't need to fly to, or they're simply supplementing mainline aircraft so I can avoid them. That hasn't been the case when I've booked on American or United.
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ditto from Minny
 
JEP said:
receiving and eligible for are two different things. i doubt Delta is concerned with inferior product nor are they inferior. nothing better out of Minny. While Delta and United may be worried about many things i doubt one of them is feeding their airline.
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Clearly guy doesn't know what inferior means, saying they will struggle 10x harder to find inferior pilots because they're going to Envoy?....... But maybe he does know that inferior pilots are going to the 'Voy'....
 
Dacuj said:
As many of you have heard by now, Envoy pilots will be receiving 150k in retention bonuses. This is a shock and awe strategy AA is doing that will further cement Envoy and AA as the new American. It will completely throw Delta and United off and word is they have already been caught off guard by this. Trying to feed their airline with inferior product just became 10 times harder.
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What I’m reading here is the flow program to American needs shoring up with retention bonuses because the regional feed is hemorrhaging pilots and they can’t attract enough bodies to backfill those leaving.
 
Dacuj said:
I'm sorry for my late rambling post. I had a few pops, got online and posted. However, now having 100% clarity of mind, the post is overall true.

I have gotten wind from a couple of guys I know in the industry that have close ties to HQ at Delta and United. They are taking this move seriously and in essence, it IS a shock and awe strategy from AA. Just think of the inferior feed that United and Delta both have. It's quite obvious when you set foot on a Whisky 200 or Commutair 145. Delay prone, dirty aircraft, many times unprofessional crews. When you set foot on an Envoy 175, you can't tell one bit of difference than when you walk onto an AA 73 or Bus. Since AA has gotten to this point, it's something Delta and United are going to have to address if they want to keep up. My opinion only of course but it comes with excellent background information.
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The only “shock and awe” element here is that despite first rate equipment and flow it takes a serious retention bonus to keep the people you already have from jumping ship for better options. Competitors are only going to be “shocked and awed” by the desperate measures Envoy is taking to maintain staffing, much less how they’re going to recruit for growth and attrition. This is epically bad marketing.
 
JEP said:
While Delta and United may be worried about many things i doubt one of them is feeding their airline.
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That statement is at least 50% incorrect.
No normal airline just assumes there will be a line of willing able pilots wrapped around the hq three times to get into the door. Fair amount of brainpower (misapplied as it may seem at times) is dedicated to figuring out the ways of making sure the spice flows.
 
BigZ said:
That statement is at least 50% incorrect.
No normal airline just assumes there will be a line of willing able pilots wrapped around the hq three times to get into the door. Fair amount of brainpower (misapplied as it may seem at times) is dedicated to figuring out the ways of making sure the spice flows.
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And said airlines have programs right now that fills that gap where they aren't spending hundreds of millions to retain regional pilots. So I'd say it was a correct statement that this is not on their list of worried items. He didn't say they aren't using brainpower for hiring programs for the future need of pilots.
 
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