Delta Charging $200 a Month Extra for Health Insurance if you don't have The Shot

Murdoughnut said:
They charge smokers more where I work. Why should the rest of us pay for others' medical risks?
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Hell, I worked for a very large health insurance company a decade ago that would do a battery of tests on you to determine what your health insurance premium was. Height, weight, blood sugar, A1C, tryglercides, etc.

I work for a smaller company now and we had one person spend a significant period of time in the ICU because of COVID and it cost us a buttload of money.

If you don't want to get the vax, and you get COVID and cost your company a lot of money for your care, you deserve to share in the pain of that.

The alternative is they jack everyone's rates and the vaccinated can subsidize the non-vaxxed's poor decisions in life. I'd rather hold people accountable for their own actions.
 
GypsyPilot said:
You see folks, this post above is the problem with social media. Someone like this takes an anecdotal datapoint and some how tries to extrapolate it as if that has any relevance.

@guywhoflies, what the scientific/medical community does is look at the statistical data for effectiveness. So perhaps your aunt Edna isn’t getting a benefit from the vaccines for some reason, which is likely a severely compromised immune system. While that sucks, it’s absolutely meaningless for the 95%+ of people that do gain a major benefit from getting vaccinated.
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You pretty much said the same thing I did, only I didn't inccude the snark in my response.

I said, "She's go to be in the very small minority", as in the vaccines are working for the vast majority.

Your response: "While that sucks, it’s absolutely meaningless for the 95%+ of people that do gain a major benefit from getting vaccinated."

I wasn't trying to pick a fight and wasn't trying to extrapolate anything. I was only offering one example of a family member (cousin, not aunt) that has tried to get vaccinated to better protect herself, but unfortunately, it hasn't worked for her. You are correct, though. She is immunocompromised. And it does suck that she isn't getting the protection the way the vaccines were intended.

But have fun arguing for the sake of arguing. I'll go back to my beer.
 
SteveC said:
::Yeahthat::

”…some article…”
:tinfoil:
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I mean, I’m just telling you what I read. I’m not anti-vaccine btw. But your response and the one above show the level of polarization that has occurred over this whole thing. And yea it looks like that wasn’t accurate. Probably why I don’t watch/read news much anymore. I don’t trust most of it.
 
guywhoflies said:
You pretty much said the same thing I did, only I didn't inccude the snark in my response.

I said, "She's go to be in the very small minority", as in the vaccines are working for the vast majority.

Your response: "While that sucks, it’s absolutely meaningless for the 95%+ of people that do gain a major benefit from getting vaccinated."

I wasn't trying to pick a fight and wasn't trying to extrapolate anything. I was only offering one example of a family member (cousin, not aunt) that has tried to get vaccinated to better protect herself, but unfortunately, it hasn't worked for her. You are correct, though. She is immunocompromised. And it does suck that she isn't getting the protection the way the vaccines were intended.

But have fun arguing for the sake of arguing. I'll go back to my beer.
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So what’s the point of your post then? There is so much anti-vaccine garbage out there, one off anecdotal situations like this just add to the misinformation as far as I’m concerned, because some idiot is going to read it and think “I knew it! They don’t work!”
 
Richman said:
Most “journalism” I come across these days, both written and via other media, seems to be created by people who got fired from their job at the car wash.
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Asking in good faith:

How do you - personally - make the decision that something is bona-fide journalism vs. bilge?
 
killbilly said:
Asking in good faith:

How do you - personally - make the decision that something is bona-fide journalism vs. bilge?
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Generally how well the story sticks to the 5 Ws without hyperbole, use of emotional strings or editorializing (which is fine in the opinion section).

If a story can jump those hurdles, while maintaining some kind of neutral tone, then ok. Violate one, and then it starts me wondering what else is wrong.
 
killbilly said:
How do you - personally - make the decision that something is bona-fide journalism vs. bilge?
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You don't need to make a decision on each story, It's overall coverage.

If this was my first week watching Fox News and I saw the stories (3 anchors) about taking horse/cow dewormer to fight off Corona Virus I'd discount what that network said going forward.

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I remember the days when industry wide we hated pilots who would come to work sick, with “allergies” and spread it others. Now for the anti-vax, who could be infected, be ok, and spread it to someone compromised or too young to take the vaccine, it’s a “yuck you! I have rights.”

How’s we get from one to the other end of this?
 
fholbert said:
Anti-vaxxers won't take a Covid Vaccine because it was rushed to approval by the FDA. But they will take Horse/Cow de-wormer to prevent Covid. WTF!

ktla.com

FDA warns against using horse dewormer to fight COVID-19 as medication sells out in Oklahoma

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is warning people not to take horse deworming medication to treat COVID-19.
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I love the era we live in: selfie’s, “influencers”, people taking animal medicine…. This is pure comedy gold.
 
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