Because you never just ramble on with talking points...like blaming the "woke movement".
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Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Expensive, fickle dictatorships preparing people to participate in democracy.
Still wouldn’t trade any of the book learnin’ though.
Max Power
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I was hired by Piedmont in 2007. A guy in my class was from Daniel Webster (graduated in 3 years) and on waivers at 240 hours.
Beefy McGee
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Problem is, right now a lot of students aren't becoming doctors, nurses, engineers, school teachers and other useful college products. (Notice I left out lawyers lol) Students are getting massively in debt with the federal loans and inflated tuition and not studying something that will make them a productive product of college. Too many students major in some useless degree program and come out with only the skills to debate social issues from only one point of view while they don't focus on getting that Starbucks order right.
I'd like to see some reform, like a requirement that if you are getting government aid you are required to learn a useful degree, or allow that aid to be used towards a solid trade school and not just a college. No more endless government money to "find yourself" by racking up debt taking all kinds of courses that don't lead to a modern productive degree. If folks still want to major in some subject that doesn't lead to a productive career, they can still do it, but they must get a non-government source of aid if needed and the consequences of picking an unproductive degree are on them. Of course that person is still going to default on their loans but private loan entities will get it back somehow. Or they will stop loaning money for stupid degrees and maybe eventually people getting aid for / wasting time on stupid degrees will go away.
Roger Roger
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Idk man, using higher education as a means to produce worker bees in accordance with the needs of the State seems kinda communist to me.
CFI A&P
Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
You know this statement applies to a variety of people and not just college kids?
Wardogg
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jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I studied philosophy in undergrad, my wife studied anthropology, a pair of "useless degrees."
I'll compare W2's with any engineer for either of us.
to a point, someone getting their loans forgiven for federal service doesn't seem so commie at face value
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I prefer Consequence Culture instead of Cancel Culture.
We also used to call it having accountability for your actions.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Don’t know what your wife does. But YOUR job today did NOT require the degree you got. Same with me. BSE Aerospace Engineering. I’ll compare my W2 to any almost any engineer in America, I make more. But that’s not the point. The point is I could have been hired here with just a degree in art history from a local community college and still be here. Our job is one of the RARE ones where it doesn’t matter what degree. But it’s not exactly fair to advertise to people your philosophy degree makes you 300k /yr. meh. It doesn’t. Your pilot job does.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Um, except the reality is the woke is using stuff from years ago (decades ago), to the point where something that may have been acceptable in those days years ago, and smearing it online today.
jtrain, I don’t want that consequence culture crap either. It’s still trying to hold someone to account for something they did at a younger age, to what may have been socially acceptable. And then the woke blasts it to today’s employer, forcing them to fire the employee. The employer doesn’t want negative press like that.
I say the line should be drawn at illegal / law breaking things. Other than that, I really don’t care if someone 30 yrs ago used the n word in high school at 16. If they’re 46 today, and that word is no longer used, then they got educated and bettered themself. Leave them alone.
Same with Matt Damon. He only recently a few years ago stopped using the three letter f word for gay people. Ok, despicable word, but he just said his daughter enlightened him and made him a better person, and he’ll never use that word again. Good, leave him alone now.
The reality is the woke brigade bathes in the domine releasing satisfaction that they just got the ball rolling to fire someone. And then take pride in glory once they’re fired.
It’s gonna backfire some day. Just watch.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Sorry that was vague. I mean society in general. They will still have enough smart people becoming docs, nurses, etc.
USMCmech
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Feel free to remind all the right wingers complaining about cancel culture that they canceled the Dixie Chicks back in 2002.*
While I disagree with their position then and today, I also thought they were great musicians and loved their songs.
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… but only if it’s free and done with care.
Roger Roger
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Dobson et al LOOOOVEEEEDDD cancel culture back before it was cancel culture.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
When it comes to arguments and justifying something, just an observation that Liberals don’t really use (capable?) of thought. It’s all feelings about them. Almost any issue. I always get the emotional, the feeling, or “just” argument with them.
Richman
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SlumTodd_Millionaire
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A lot of that woke brigade that you’re defending would like to see you lose your job, your reputation, everything just because you used the word c-u-n-t, which some of them consider to be misogynistic.
Anyone who defends the woke will eventually find himself a target of them. Nobody can ever meet their fascistic standards.