Cathay working on single pilot long haul

Screaming_Emu said:
Just wait until you find the naked parts
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mikecweb said:
Real Estate "professionals". Now that's a a group that could be obsolete overnight.
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Yup! And there are hundreds of companies working on doing just that. It's an industry called "PropTech." Venture capital is flooding the space.

I don't know what you don't get about this, but every profession is at risk. I am not immune, and neither are you. Automation saves ungodly amounts of money, and even better, it prevents the mistakes that apes constantly make.

knot4u said:
Would a piece of software have had as good of an outcome as not only one, but three experienced pilots on the flight deck of UA 232? I doubt it.
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The reason everyone constantly refers back to UA232 and not to any other accidents is because it was a once in a century event. And thanks to improvements made as a result of that event, it's likely now a once five centuries event. I don't know how to break this to you, but executives don't care about once in a century events. They care about next quarter's profits.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
The reason everyone constantly refers back to UA232 and not to any other accidents is because it was a once in a century event. And thanks to improvements made as a result of that event, it's likely now a once five centuries event. I don't know how to break this to you, but executives don't care about once in a century events. They care about next quarter's profits.
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What about Air France 447. That is definetly a good argument about keeping apes as you like saying up front at least in some sort of capacity awhile longer.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
What about Air France 447. That is definetly a good argument about keeping apes as you like saying up front at least in some sort of capacity awhile longer.
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Well, 2 out of 3 apes knew wtf was wrong. Problem was 1 dumb ape kept taking back control like a little snake and • it all up. If the acting captain had both realized and put a crash axe through the dumbasses head they might have had a shot.

Ape kill ape, rest of apes strong.
 
jynxyjoe said:
Well, 2 out of 3 apes knew wtf was wrong. Problem was 1 dumb ape kept taking back control like a little snake and • it all up. If the acting captain had both realized and put a crash axe through the dumbasses head they might have had a shot.

Ape kill ape, rest of apes strong.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
If you think that accident speaks well of the abilities of apes, I really don't know what the hell to say to you.
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That tragedy serves as an argument for more hands-on, hand flying of airliners by pilots to keep up with basic muscle memory stick and rudder skills. Vs. relying solely on automation to save the day. I figured that it would help to prove my point and as a warning against automation complacency, since you're all-in on fully autonomous aircraft. As I understand it AF at the time had switched to a methodology of pilots utilizing automation more in the cockpit than stick and rudder skills and as a result lost basic stick and rudder skills. Which helped contributed to the crash. I could be wrong in my assertion however. If I am, I am sure that you as always will be sure to tell me.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
That tragedy serves as an argument for more hands-on, hand flying of airliners by pilots to keep up with basic muscle memory stick and rudder skills. Vs. relying solely on automation to save the day. I figured that it would help to prove my point and as a warning against automation complacency, since you're all-in on fully autonomous aircraft. As I understand it AF at the time had switched to a methodology of pilots utilizing automation more in the cockpit than stick and rudder skills and as a result lost basic stick and rudder skills. Which helped contributed to the crash. I could be wrong in my assertion however. If I am, I am sure that you as always will be sure to tell me.
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What you're talking about is a lack of basic airmanship. Airmanship is no longer a factor when the airman is extracted from the situation.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
What you're talking about is a lack of basic airmanship. Airmanship is no longer a factor when the airman is extracted from the situation.
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I think you're going to see more machines out there, more AI, and they'll be focusing in on what they do best, guessing close to right answers. The human is going to be there for linking things together, pattern recognition (our superpower) and trying to manage all.

I don't know though, maybe machines are so far along its already over. I suspect Tesla'izing the airlines is still 30-40 years out.
 
jynxyjoe said:
I think you're going to see more machines out there, more AI, and they'll be focusing in on what they do best, guessing close to right answers. The human is going to be there for linking things together, pattern recognition (our superpower) and trying to manage all.

I don't know though, maybe machines are so far along its already over. I suspect Tesla'izing the airlines is still 30-40 years out.
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It might be 30-40 years out. I'm not giving a timeline. I'm just telling the people who are claiming it ain't gonna happen that they're delusional. As soon as the AI gets there, it's over. Not just for pilots, but for most jobs.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
It might be 30-40 years out. I'm not giving a timeline. I'm just telling the people who are claiming it ain't gonna happen that they're delusional. As soon as the AI gets there, it's over. Not just for pilots, but for most jobs.
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As I've said before, the slow speed of the FAA could easily keep pilots safe from obsolescence for a few more decades. But demand for air travel will likely disappear long before that, since many people will less heavily regulated jobs will find themselves automated out of a job much sooner; which will cause a permanent, unrecoverable Depression from all the unemployment.
 
Yakob said:
As I've said before, the slow speed of the FAA could easily keep pilots safe from obsolescence for a few more decades. But demand for air travel will likely disappear long before that, since many people will less heavily regulated jobs will find themselves automated out of a job much sooner; which will cause a permanent, unrecoverable Depression from all the unemployment.
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... Can you cut that • out for a minute? God! Have a beer and don't think or say anything awful for a • week.
 
Yakob said:
As I've said before, the slow speed of the FAA could easily keep pilots safe from obsolescence for a few more decades. But demand for air travel will likely disappear long before that, since many people will less heavily regulated jobs will find themselves automated out of a job much sooner; which will cause a permanent, unrecoverable Depression from all the unemployment.
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Tell your shrink to up the dose. How do you even get out of bed in the morning.


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