The totally reasonable and not at all extravagant desire for speed...

Hmm, yes, engine inlets at the rear-center of a delta planform wing. I'm sure this will be successful during takeoff and landing. :aghast:

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Step 1: Prototype
Step 2: Sell it as a business jet
Step 3: Stretch it out to seat 3x the people without changing the wing or engines
Step 4: No slats, slats cost money.
Step 5: Sell it as a terrible RJ and make the regionals operate it for $78 an hour since it's technically outside of the scope clause.
 
I was thinking about this some throughout the day and it made me angry. Like I'm all for contenders to dethrone Boeing domestically and the "Bank of Boeing". But this outfit are just charlatans. You can maybe fly a can of soda anywhere in the world for $100 (if they also sell a bunch of first-class seats or some racehorses or w/e).

They just hired Dahir İnşaat to whip-up some artist's conception of what some of the investor capital might go to (but the design will never freeze and keep experiencing major revisions with each new round of funding). This poisons the market for investment in aerospace.

And this shameful-ass Maureen O'Hare at CNN got roped-in to give publicity to it without offering any critical review.
 
Strangely, a lot of people over on LinkedIn think Boom will be first to market with a new supersonic passenger jet. I personally think that if it happens in the next 10 years it is going to be Alerion.
 
thevideographer said:
Step 1: Prototype
Step 2: Sell it as a business jet
Step 3: Stretch it out to seat 3x the people without changing the wing or engines
Step 4: No slats, slats cost money.
Step 5: Sell it as a terrible RJ and make the regionals operate it for $78 an hour since it's technically outside of the scope clause.
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I feel like this will happen now.
 
thevideographer said:
Step 1: Prototype
Step 2: Sell it as a business jet
Step 3: Stretch it out to seat 3x the people without changing the wing or engines
Step 4: No slats, slats cost money.
Step 5: Sell it as a terrible RJ and make the regionals operate it for $78 an hour since it's technically outside of the scope clause.
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That's further than I would figure. I'd figure
1. Non flying prototype/mock up
2. Get a bunch of investors to give you money
3. Disappear forever
 
Obviously you guys have never sat through a VC pitch meeting!

Boom and Alerion seem like the two realistic contenders. They are both backed by for real engineering and development talent and (for now) are well funded. What remains to be seen is if a) they can figure out a way to minimize the sound footprint so they can sell airplanes that fly over land or b) find enough of a market that is willing to pay a premium to go faster over the water.
 
If Gulfstream hasn't said they're going to do it there's a reason. Maybe that reason is they're not being public about what they're working on? Or maybe they've already crunched the numbers and decided it's still not viable regardless of what they think their customers would be willing to pay. I know of two PT91 G650 owners who've already placed their orders for G700s, I'm sure those two aren't the only ones.
 
thevideographer said:
Step 1: Prototype
Step 2: Sell it as a business jet
Step 3: Stretch it out to seat 3x the people without changing the wing or engines
Step 4: No slats, slats cost money.
Step 5: Sell it as a terrible RJ and make the regionals operate it for $78 an hour since it's technically outside of the scope clause.
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CRJ is by far the easiest plane to land
 
thevideographer said:
Step 1: Prototype
Step 2: Sell it as a business jet
Step 3: Stretch it out to seat 3x the people without changing the wing or engines
Step 4: No slats, slats cost money.
Step 5: Sell it as a terrible RJ and make the regionals operate it for $78 an hour since it's technically outside of the scope clause.
Click to expand...
Or a freighter. Supposedly the initial customer was FedEx. Thus the first 23 had a different design.
 
Flyinthrew said:
Strangely, a lot of people over on LinkedIn think Boom will be first to market with a new supersonic passenger jet. I personally think that if it happens in the next 10 years it is going to be Aerion.
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www.cnbc.com

Aerion Supersonic shuts down, ending plans to build silent high speed business jets

Aerion Supersonic is shutting down, the company confirmed to CNBC.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com


Welp...I stand corrected. Everything seemed to be going ok regarding business partnerships and their Florida campus being built, but I guess that just means PR was doing its job.
 
Remember the VLJ "boom" a while back?
Bunch of companies made a round of CGI airplanes, raised millions with lofty goals then went bankrupt.

Result:
Cirrus Vision and.... well not much else.

This will be the result of the Sonic "boom"
Except with more money and fewer airplanes.

When Dassault takes it seriously, then maybe I might.
(they would be the most qualified of all companies to make a SS transport)
 
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