Pilot Shortage!

knot4u said:
Sighing noise. Every election from this point on better be be absolutely transparent with no anomalies.
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Your answer has absolutely zero to do with the original contention. Stay on target or GTFO.

Is that the same as the clinton organization?
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Oh look. Once again your answer has absolutely zero to do with the original statement you made. Zero for two... doesn't look good for the Hall of Fame ballot hoss.

Joe's pushed through over 40 in probably the same amount of time, some seem to contradict your constitutional rights, if you care or take the time. I doubt there's a Bigfoot, but I'm pretty sure there's a @BobDDuck.
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Biden actually is at 50 EOs as of last week. 22 of the are direct policy rollbacks of Trump EOs. 14 of them are Covid 19 related. I haven't seen any yet that I feel are threatening my constitutional rights, but if they did, I'm sure (like what has happened to every other President who has signed EOs) somebody will challenge them in court and the courts will decide if it's an issue or not.

Where were you in January?
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You were all worried about fences and Nation Guard troops before. What happened? Run out of ink?
 
BobDDuck said:
I haven't seen any yet that I feel are threatening my constitutional rights, but if they did, I'm sure (like what has happened to every other President who has signed EOs) somebody will challenge them in court and the courts will decide if it's an issue or not.
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I'm with you on all of this. But here's where I get some concern: challenging this stuff in court takes a long time. Sometimes years. We've essentially created an environment where presidents think they can sign whatever they want to get something done in the short term, knowing full well that it will fail in the courts. President Obama was pretty blatant with this on DACA. Don't get me wrong, I agreed with his position on immigration, but by his own prior statements, it was clear as hell that he knew he didn't have the power that he pretended to have when he signed that EO. He did it only because he knew it would take a long time to challenge it, and by the time it was challenged, it would be difficult politically to reverse course. But then along comes Trump, who has no sense of decency (or anything else other than ego, really), and he just signed one EO after another with the same idea that he knew he could get away with it for a good long while.

This strikes me as a very broken system.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
I'm with you on all of this. But here's where I get some concern: challenging this stuff in court takes a long time. Sometimes years. We've essentially created an environment where presidents think they can sign whatever they want to get something done in the short term, knowing full well that it will fail in the courts. President Obama was pretty blatant with this on DACA. Don't get me wrong, I agreed with his position on immigration, but by his own prior statements, it was clear as hell that he knew he didn't have the power that he pretended to have when he signed that EO. He did it only because he knew it would take a long time to challenge it, and by the time it was challenged, it would be difficult politically to reverse course. But then along comes Trump, who has no sense of decency (or anything else other than ego, really), and he just signed one EO after another with the same idea that he knew he could get away with it for a good long while.

This strikes me as a very broken system.
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Of course it is broken. Direct consequence of Congress being ineffective due to having one party more interested in purity tests and making nice than governing and another party more interested in pwning the libtards than governing. Of course if certain voters weren’t coddled by the electoral college and gerrymandering, one of those parties would long ago have had to adapt and we might have a functional congress
 
Roger Roger said:
Of course it is broken. Direct consequence of Congress being ineffective due to having one party more interested in purity tests and making nice than governing and another party more interested in pwning the libtards than governing. Of course if certain voters weren’t coddled by the electoral college and gerrymandering, one of those parties would long ago have had to adapt and we might have a functional congress
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I would add the closed primary process to the mix, but otherwise agree on all points.
 
Remember when there were people who were going supposedly mix their liquids on board, create a bomb, and blow up airliners over the Atlantic? 1 bag, 3oz, 100mL max for you! 15 yrs later, ever changing threat matrix, not a single change to that mandate from 2006. And people just live with it. Can't even take in a sealed bottle of water or coke on a plane. It's the new normal from 2006. It won't change and we won't go back, even 15 yrs later. People don't even complain anymore. It's the new normal and it's been accepted as normal.


THIS is why I'm against government mandates which are supposedly temporary.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Remember when there were people who were going supposedly mix their liquids on board, create a bomb, and blow up airliners over the Atlantic? 1 bag, 3oz, 100mL max for you! 15 yrs later, ever changing threat matrix, not a single change to that mandate from 2006. And people just live with it. Can't even take in a sealed bottle of water or coke on a plane. It's the new normal from 2006. It won't change and we won't go back, even 15 yrs later. People don't even complain anymore. It's the new normal and it's been accepted as normal.


THIS is why I'm against government mandates which are supposedly temporary.
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Passengers can take a bottle of water or coke on an airplane, they just can’t take it through a TSA security check point.
 
Beep said:
Passengers can take a bottle of water or coke on an airplane, they just can’t take it through a TSA security check point.
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Ok, correct. But that's the point where the government control is. The TSA checkpoint.

I can't take my own bottle as a regular pax from home to my flight.
 
Soooo, how’s that pilot shortage coming? I heard United is supposed to have its first positive cash flow month since COVID really got under way last year.
 
alaskadrifter said:
Soooo, how’s that pilot shortage coming? I heard United is supposed to have its first positive cash flow month since COVID really got under way last year.
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That’s kinda easy when you never have to furlough due to 3 rounds of PSP and virtually unlimited government backing in grants and favorable loans. Not just United. Pretty much everyone.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
That’s kinda easy when you never have to furlough due to 3 rounds of PSP and virtually unlimited government backing in grants and favorable loans. Not just United. Pretty much everyone.
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You like to complain don't you? It's like someone handing you $100k and you're complaining that someone just dumped $100k into your hands. WTF? As a pilot you should be happy the government interceded. You still have a job, you can still pay your bills and feed your family. I bet that, that engineering degree probably has dust on it. Probably can't just pull that out like a fire extinguisher and "break glass in case of an emergency." Its a lot worse in other parts of the world, namely Europe where their governments didn't give bailouts to airlines. And pilots are on the breadline. Be thankful.
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
You like to complain don't you? It's like someone handing you $100k and you're complaining that someone just dumped $100k into your hands. WTF? As a pilot you should be happy the government interceded. You still have a job, you can still pay your bills and feed your family. I bet that, that engineering degree probably has dust on it. Probably can't just pull that out like a fire extinguisher and "break glass in case of an emergency." Its a lot worse in other parts of the world, namely Europe where their governments didn't give bailouts to airlines. And pilots are on the breadline. Be thankful.
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Airline pilots: almost all on high end UI (with the occasional obligation to work depending on how screwed they got) last 12 months

Also airline pilots: reeeeee socialism! I oppose UI top-ups! Get back to work!
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
In fairness, I'm pretty sure CC opposed the bailouts after the first one and was willing to accept the consequences.
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Easy to say until you're actually on the furlough chopping block. And that's not just true of CC, I think every airline employee who claimed not to support more bailouts would start singing a different tune if the bailout money actually stopped and the bankruptcies and mass furloughs started.
 
Yakob said:
Easy to say until you're actually on the furlough chopping block. And that's not just true of CC, I think every airline employee who claimed not to support more bailouts would start singing a different tune if the bailout money actually stopped and the bankruptcies and mass furloughs started.
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I actually do oppose further PSP, myself; I think the first 2 iterations were the right thing to do, and at this point, with things looking quite rosy, it is somewhat disingenuous for the business to be at once on the Hill looking for dollars while talking about growth again.

That said, not my call, and sovereign debt is real cheap right now. (I’d rather spend $15 billion on food banks.)
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I actually do oppose further PSP, myself; I think the first 2 iterations were the right thing to do, and at this point, with things looking quite rosy, it is somewhat disingenuous for the business to be at once on the Hill looking for dollars while talking about growth again.

That said, not my call, and sovereign debt is real cheap right now. (I’d rather spend $15 billion on food banks.)
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Easy to say until you're actually facing furlough. I suspect that, if you were on the furlough chopping block right now, your views on further PSP might evolve.
 
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