86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Currently left seat in 135 twin turboprops. If given the choice, would you stick with this job for another year to go to a ULCC or leave now to go to a regional. TT just under 1500 at the moment.
Regional Today, ULLC Tomorrow
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ULCC ASAP. Upgrades at most of them are way down, comparable to even some of the “better” regionals. The only advantage to going to a regional is it will make the ULCC training easier, but would you rather be stuck in your current job or X regional in the next year if things stop? Also consider the wait times. A lot of regionals have pretty long waits for classes right now, probably the same for some of the ULCCs even to get an interview.
That’s my long winded way of saying if you have a way to skip the regionals, take it.
That’s my long winded way of saying if you have a way to skip the regionals, take it.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the response. I agree; my only concern is that waiting for the ULCC would mean waiting another year until I'd start bulidng 121 time and IF the music stops, between now and then, even a jump to the regionals, at that point, might not be possible much less moving to a ULCC.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I find your presumptions interesting. I was turned down after interviewing with an ULCC when I had 3,500 hours and 500 TPIC. We all know I'm a walking, talking, • canoe, but I didn't even get a chance to get into the room until I hit those qualifications.
Unless you're at Amflight and you're talking about the Frontier thing, in which case make sure you read the fine print.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Dude LCC and ULCC are grabbing guys before the regionals grab them these days. It's a different world.
Right now I think the DGI for EDV has turned into the EDV-JBU program. Fly for six months at EDV as an FO in NYC? Here's your JBU class date.
Pretty hard to argue anything other than it's easier than it's ever been.
adk
Steals Hotel Toilet Paper
Not pilots with less than 1,500 TT (or, in a year of 135, likely 1,800 TT).
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Wait, building 121 time? Are you attempting to use a ULCC as a steppingstone for something else?
Seriously, it’s competitive as hell now. 3 internal recs at one with turbine PIC app in for over a year now and I never got called.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Easier than it's ever been doesn't mean easy.
I dunno about that. For a while (pre-new contract) Spirit was grabbing FOs from my old shop left and right. Post contract it was really mostly, if not only, captains getting called, even then some of the more senior guys.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Was gonna say, those days are for the most part gone.
We do take a good portion of 135 people with zero 121 experience, but it is not fait accompli.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Well depending on someone's age, situation, etc., why wouldn't anyone use the ULCCs as a stepping stone potentially? Maybe you get to a ULCC like the base(s), like the QOL, don't want to restart on a seniority list somewhere else, etc., and decide to stay for a career. But I'm not sure why there's some big shock factor with the idea of trying to move on from a ULCC at some point.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
There are no presumptions; no idea what you're condescendingly referring to. I said "if given the choice;" I didn't say: here are the offers I have on the table.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
If you think going and flying an RJ is a better job than a ULCC you need your head examined.
Source: been there, done both.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
No-one has assumed anything, it's a hypothetical question.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Where did I ever suggest an RJ might be a better job?
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Even asking the question is fatuity, sir.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Asking what question?