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I find it a struggle to use those though. I'm guessing that is true for most customers, which is why it is marketed.

Anyone who flies once a year can probably use the whole credit, and given the other perks this is a card meant for frequent fliers. I'm assuming by travel credit it means plane tickets would count. And/or rental cars.
 
Anyone who flies once a year can probably use the whole credit, and given the other perks this is a card meant for frequent fliers. I'm assuming by travel credit it means plane tickets would count. And/or rental cars.

Travel credit, at least for Amex, is for airline fees. So checked bags, drinks, standby fees, lounge access and stuff like that. Not for tickets or rental cars. I already get free lounge access, I don't check bags, and rarely end up with change fees. Besides, frequent fliers aren't usually paying for their own tickets, our employers are.
 
Dave says, “Nope.”
 

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Travel credit, at least for Amex, is for airline fees. So checked bags, drinks, standby fees, lounge access and stuff like that. Not for tickets or rental cars. I already get free lounge access, I don't check bags, and rarely end up with change fees. Besides, frequent fliers aren't usually paying for their own tickets, our employers are.

Ah, in that case yes I don't think I'd even be able to use it all.
 
Dave is an idiot unless you suck at all things money.

I don’t think idiot is the right description, I think he has a very targeted audience is more accurate. Unfortunately I was one of his pupils. I was used to making bucks as a contractor, then all of a sudden I became a pilot and had to rethink a lot of things.
 
I find it a struggle to use those though. I'm guessing that is true for most customers, which is why it is marketed.


Merchants in the travel category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages.
 
Merchants in the travel category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages.

Here's the fine print: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/benefits/detail/airline-fee-credit/platinum

That's what you get the credit for with American Express, which is none of those things. And with Amex, it is only on one airline you choose in advance (It is hard for me to predict where I am going and who will fly there a year in advance). You may get some extra points, but when you add it up, they aren't that great a deal.
 
Look at CITI cards. They have one that is no interest for 18 months and another that is 2% back on any purchase.

Whatever you do, don't rack up a big credit card debt that you can't pay. There are a lot of Plan B options that are better than that.
 
I find it a struggle to use those though. I'm guessing that is true for most customers, which is why it is marketed.

Really?

I went on vacation and it was picking up charges at the hotel for parking and charges at the hotel bar. They're definitely not stingy with what they allow. I'm six months into my membership year and I've already blown through my $300 for the year.
 
I booked on air b&b once and it credited 300$ worth of my booking as part of the perk of chase sapphire reserve
 
What's your best redemption?

Mine is easily JFK-HKG in Cathay F. Booked for only 70K AS miles each way..

I did STL-DFW-NRT in first back when AA still had first on the 777-200s. 125k miles RT. I did Hawaii in first a few times too. That was before they made redemptions super expensive and handed miles out like they were candy. It used to be fun, but now they've devalued these programs so much, it's not even worth it.
 
I write this advice as someone who is very much into the points and miles game and currently hold 14 credit cards. I just got off the phone with Bank of America for about my 5th Alaska Visa application (see above post about great redemptions using Alaska miles for CX tickets).

While I do not recommend doing what I do unless you have a lot of organic spend, I simply state the above to point out that my advice comes from some experience with points and miles cards. A lot of people do cashback cards and that's great, but I like the high value redemptions on airline tickets and hotel stays.

I love the Chase Sapphire Reserve card for my purposes and I would recommend that except for the fact that it does not have the 100,000 point bonus any longer. It's a 50,000 point bonus for the $450 annual fee. The $300 travel credit is easy to get, but that still makes the annual fee $150 versus a free first year with the Sapphire Preferred card at the same 50,000 point level. Unless you are travelling on airlines a lot and can use the Priority Pass regularly that fee is probably not worth it. Get the Sapphire Preferred now and then downgrade it to a Freedom or Freedom Unlimited at the one year point. We can talk about using the points or transferring them out prior to the downgrade at a later time.

Some have said that the no annual fee 2% cards make more sense, while technically true that does not take into account the value of the initial bonus points. The beauty of the Sapphire Preferred is that you are getting a great stash of beginning points that are very versatile with no initial annual fee.

The loss of the cash discount is an issue it would seem, but maybe you can negotiate a little with the flight school by paying a little in advance since you have the cash. Even so the credit card points and miles game is all about arbitrage. The 50,000 points could be valued as high as $1050, but let's say minimum $625 if used on the Chase portal (lowest value). For the $4000 spend requirement you are out the flight school cash discount of $120. Worst case is you are still ahead by $505 with the credit card.

Don't keep using the card at the flight school after meeting that $4000 minimum spend though. Either go back to cash or get another card and another bonus whose value will again be higher than the 3% cash discount you are losing.

There is tons of information about this topic on Reddit (Churning); The Points Guy; and Doctor of Credit websites to name a few. If you start on the credit card points and miles game must reads are the R/Churning Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/wiki/index
The Basic Reading threads on the right side of that page for Beginner's Guide to Chase 5/24 and Credit card decision flow chart are very good.
 
I write this advice as someone who is very much into the points and miles game and currently hold 14 credit cards. I just got off the phone with Bank of America for about my 5th Alaska Visa application (see above post about great redemptions using Alaska miles for CX tickets).

While I do not recommend doing what I do unless you have a lot of organic spend, I simply state the above to point out that my advice comes from some experience with points and miles cards. A lot of people do cashback cards and that's great, but I like the high value redemptions on airline tickets and hotel stays.

I love the Chase Sapphire Reserve card for my purposes and I would recommend that except for the fact that it does not have the 100,000 point bonus any longer. It's a 50,000 point bonus for the $450 annual fee. The $300 travel credit is easy to get, but that still makes the annual fee $150 versus a free first year with the Sapphire Preferred card at the same 50,000 point level. Unless you are travelling on airlines a lot and can use the Priority Pass regularly that fee is probably not worth it. Get the Sapphire Preferred now and then downgrade it to a Freedom or Freedom Unlimited at the one year point. We can talk about using the points or transferring them out prior to the downgrade at a later time.

Some have said that the no annual fee 2% cards make more sense, while technically true that does not take into account the value of the initial bonus points. The beauty of the Sapphire Preferred is that you are getting a great stash of beginning points that are very versatile with no initial annual fee.

The loss of the cash discount is an issue it would seem, but maybe you can negotiate a little with the flight school by paying a little in advance since you have the cash. Even so the credit card points and miles game is all about arbitrage. The 50,000 points could be valued as high as $1050, but let's say minimum $625 if used on the Chase portal (lowest value). For the $4000 spend requirement you are out the flight school cash discount of $120. Worst case is you are still ahead by $505 with the credit card.

Don't keep using the card at the flight school after meeting that $4000 minimum spend though. Either go back to cash or get another card and another bonus whose value will again be higher than the 3% cash discount you are losing.

There is tons of information about this topic on Reddit (Churning); The Points Guy; and Doctor of Credit websites to name a few. If you start on the credit card points and miles game must reads are the R/Churning Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/wiki/index
The Basic Reading threads on the right side of that page for Beginner's Guide to Chase 5/24 and Credit card decision flow chart are very good.

How much do you MS each month?
 
How much do you MS each month?


Honestly not much. I have the older Chase Ink Business Plus card which is the golden goose of MS so that is pretty much the only card I will MS on. That said, I do not live in the USA so it is very difficult to MS. If I lived in the USA I would do fair bit more.
 
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