Cops called on woman over flying "fat and black"

Likewise with butt-to-knee length. That's the one that gets the tall people. The knees have to clear the bottom of the instrument panel. I'm 6'3" and could tell it would be a close one in the T-45. Marginally better in the current ride.

FWIW, I read this article yesterday and decided not to post it here because it is ridiculously frivolous and obviously doesn't tell the whole story.
 
///AMG said:
It’s more of a weight issue than height one. With our seat, if I remember correctly, you have to sign a waiver if you are more than 230 lbs......not really an issue for the other guy in 2 seat jets, but there is a risk you won’t clear the vertical stabs if overweight
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Isn't there a minimum weight for those as well? I'm a distance runner....I weigh around 138 pounds.
 
Apophis said:
Figured as much. I guess it varies by seat as well?
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It does. Some of the smaller female pilots (and a couple of runner-type rail thin dudes) I flew with were actually too light for the seat. They were placed on a Twinkie/ding dongs diet. :). Outside the weight limits, the seat would arc forward or backward upon clearing the seat rails, rather than straight out, which was the danger.
 
Apophis said:
Figured as much. I guess it varies by seat as well?
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And service since the operate different aircraft. Each one has the same premise though when you’re applying to their aviation programs. Most people are fine. It’s the people on the outlier percentiles or with abnormal body proportions that have issue.

It’s all “waiverable” as with everything in the military, but I know my buddies wife ended up a ECMO in Prowlers because she was good for that seat, but not for backseat in the Hornet.

Same existed for helicopters too. We had guys waived into the Kiowa for usually being to tall in seated height. It was understood that would be disadvantageous in a crash due to seated posture and such, but hey it beats flying Blackhawks.
 
Boris Badenov said:
"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" On the other hand, the totally fourth hand rumor is that short-stacks are more likely to survive an ejection. Fact or fiction? If fact, did you ever tell the 6'5 guy in front that you were thinking about punching out near the edge of the envelope just to see?
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As far as survivabilty, I’d say, fiction. As far as increased risk of injury, I’m pretty confident in saying, facty.

Just thinking about tall folks with their arms and legs flailing akimbo.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
Just thinking about tall folks with their arms and legs flailing akimbo.
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I got this image when I read what you posted!

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Yeah, concur about random measurements being a show stopper. I was within a RCH of being disqualified for the EA-6B due to too much sitting height, which was weird because I'm only 5'10".........knee to butt is another one, though I have seen some absurdly tall dudes fly this airframe no problem, and generally, they all have long knee to butt. To answer the question about low weight, yes, there is a lower limit, somewhere around 138 lbs or something, also waiverable, and also generally only applies to females (not because of gender, just that they are statistically most of the lightweight folks out there). There is also a lower limit to the JHMCS (joint helmet), and my impression is that the lower weight limit that applies to it (similar) is non-waiverable........too much risk of a broken neck during ejection or something like that. Like others have said, these numbers are really outliers, statistically, most of us are 150-200 lbs, and somewhere between 5'8 and 6'2 for the most part. Not a ton of variance like you might see in other industries.
 
///AMG said:
Yeah, concur about random measurements being a show stopper. I was within a RCH of being disqualified for the EA-6B due to too much sitting height, which was weird because I'm only 5'10".........knee to butt is another one, though I have seen some absurdly tall dudes fly this airframe no problem, and generally, they all have long knee to butt. To answer the question about low weight, yes, there is a lower limit, somewhere around 138 lbs or something, also waiverable, and also generally only applies to females (not because of gender, just that they are statistically most of the lightweight folks out there). There is also a lower limit to the JHMCS (joint helmet), and my impression is that the lower weight limit that applies to it (similar) is non-waiverable........too much risk of a broken neck during ejection or something like that. Like others have said, these numbers are really outliers, statistically, most of us are 150-200 lbs, and somewhere between 5'8 and 6'2 for the most part. Not a ton of variance like you might see in other industries.
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What are you guys going to do with all your ECMO’s?
 
Pilot Fighter said:
///AMG said:
Yeah, concur about random measurements being a show stopper. I was within a RCH of being disqualified for the EA-6B due to too much sitting height, which was weird because I'm only 5'10".........knee to butt is another one, though I have seen some absurdly tall dudes fly this airframe no problem, and generally, they all have long knee to butt. To answer the question about low weight, yes, there is a lower limit, somewhere around 138 lbs or something, also waiverable, and also generally only applies to females (not because of gender, just that they are statistically most of the lightweight folks out there). There is also a lower limit to the JHMCS (joint helmet), and my impression is that the lower weight limit that applies to it (similar) is non-waiverable........too much risk of a broken neck during ejection or something like that. Like others have said, these numbers are really outliers, statistically, most of us are 150-200 lbs, and somewhere between 5'8 and 6'2 for the most part. Not a ton of variance like you might see in other industries.
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What are you guys going to do with all your ECMO’s?
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Pilot Fighter said:
What are you guys going to do with all your ECMO’s?
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The USN got out of the Prowler business completely a couple years ago, so it's more of a past tense question. A pretty decent amount of folks made the transition to Growlers, and prior to the sundown, there had been a number of years of transitioning squadrons. So it wasn't like they just suddenly killed a bunch of squadrons off as was the case with A-6 and S-3 sundowns. I was actually on the last CVN Prowler deployment with VAQ-134, and I've run into probably the majority of them who are flying Growlers now. It helped that the last cruise was mainly augmented by FRS instructors, who were going to come back and go to the G side right away anyway.
 
///AMG said:
The USN got out of the Prowler business completely a couple years ago, so it's more of a past tense question. A pretty decent amount of folks made the transition to Growlers, and prior to the sundown, there had been a number of years of transitioning squadrons. So it wasn't like they just suddenly killed a bunch of squadrons off as was the case with A-6 and S-3 sundowns. I was actually on the last CVN Prowler deployment with VAQ-134, and I've run into probably the majority of them who are flying Growlers now. It helped that the last cruise was mainly augmented by FRS instructors, who were going to come back and go to the G side right away anyway.
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I’m familiar with the transition to the Growler. For some reason I thought you were a Marine and was curious about the fate of Marine ECMO’s. I would think that keeping them in the air would be a challenge.
 
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///AMG said:
The USN got out of the Prowler business completely a couple years ago, so it's more of a past tense question. A pretty decent amount of folks made the transition to Growlers, and prior to the sundown, there had been a number of years of transitioning squadrons. So it wasn't like they just suddenly killed a bunch of squadrons off as was the case with A-6 and S-3 sundowns. I was actually on the last CVN Prowler deployment with VAQ-134, and I've run into probably the majority of them who are flying Growlers now. It helped that the last cruise was mainly augmented by FRS instructors, who were going to come back and go to the G side right away anyway.
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I’m familiar with the transition to the Growler. For some reason I thought you were a Marine and was curious about the fate of Marine ECMO’s. I would think that keeping them in the air would be a challenge.
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Talking to my buddy and his wife (WSO & ECMO).... they don’t know.

Rumors abound though with ideas like sending some to work on the Navy side for their fleet tours and return to the Marine side for B billets and other such fun.


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Lawman said:
Talking to my buddy and his wife (WSO & ECMO).... they don’t know.

Rumors abound though with ideas like sending some to work on the Navy side for their fleet tours and return to the Marine side for B billets and other such fun.

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I see infantry platoon leader in their future. Or maybe Air Group staff, :)
 
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