How to throw yourself under the bus

NovemberEcho said:
Attitude is everything. 99% of the time if you just say sorry my bad you won't get a number to call, and even if you do it'll usually just be so the sup can hear what happened but nothing will come of it. If you're argumentative about it then there's a much higher chance of it being escalated.
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According to our POI, the letter of investigation I got a few years ago had nothing to do with us flying the wrong heading on departure and everything to do with the captain I was flying with arguing about it through two sectors and a phone call with the Center sup... who she hung up on mid argument.
 
I remember reading that a controller could totally give you the ‘no worries’ statement, but the system could still flag you. (TARP...Traffic Analysis Review Program?). But...more importantly...

Keep in mind the new FAA Compliance Philosophy, I think implemented in 2015. LOTS of pilots seem not to know about this. It was spoken about in my new hire class by some safety program guy in 2015, but I had read about it just before. I wrote to a Flying Magazine author/airline pilot who wrote an article which seemed to intersperse ‘violations and enforcement’ for honest mistakes in every other sentence. He hadn’t heard about this ‘kinder and gentler FAA.’

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/cp/
 
NovemberEcho said:
No, he's right lol
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Then why can't you guys get anyone new checked out? I am sure there are a whole lot of life-long Islanders there who couldn't imagine life without their landscaper, their maid, their in-lawn sprinkler system, their 20 hours of OT each week to pay for it all, and actually having to spend time with their spouse. For as much as they all love Billy Joel, they never bothered to listen to the wisdom in Anthony's Song. That move money is tempting, luckily for me I learned my lesson after nearly 5 years at ZNY. :bounce:
 
NovemberEcho said:
DE727UPS said:
I was wondering. Nice of you to handle it that way.
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people who completely jack up the Ruudy departure off TEB and climb into the EWR final.
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From this side of the headset, I see at least one email a month discussing that subject. It is either a reminder from the company, FAA safety team, NBAA, or some other organization in the industry.

It really isn’t that hard people. When landing on 6 you have mandatory altitudes. Why would people think those altitude constraints don’t exist when departing 24? At this point it rhymes like any other memory aid. “Maintain 2,000 until established, cross DANDY at 1,500 and 170 to TORBY (circle after TORBY if applicable) cleared ILS 6.”
 
2 main reasons.

1. They legitimately can't do it
2. They realize the horrible mistake they've made moving to Long Island and want out
 
fholbert said:
Moving to California lesson 101:

Only tourists from the Eastern Time Zone call it Cali.

Cross over to Center and you can work in the lovely community of Palmdale, CA.
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It's all good. I have 0 desire to move to Cali. Only way I'm leaving here is if I can get to Denver or Charlotte.
 
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