9E to travel ahead of DL retirees

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Ian_J

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This has been out for a while now, but it’s just now about to go in effect. Curious of the opinions mainline folks here have on it.
 
MikeFavinger said:
This has been out for a while now, but it’s just now about to go in effect. Curious of the opinions mainline folks here have on it.
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I'm curious too. Mainline guys on APC are pretty fired up about it, but it's APC so things are usually pretty extreme over there. Retirees on FB were pretty upset about it as well.
 
Not the first time. When Delta owned ASA and then Comair, their active employees went ahead of retireees. Pilots bitched then too.

Of course, there are pilots who feel a new hire pilot should go ahead of a 20 year non pilot employee and their family.
 
Not a fan. If I spend 30+ years at this company I expect to not get bumped by a contractor employee (I was there for 10 years so don't hate for saying it). Not only that but I'm guessing all of their active passriders will go ahead of retirees as well.

Do I like it? No. Is it worth losing sleep over?? Not at all.
 
I definitely see both sides to it. Nothing sucked harder than trying to commute around a holiday and watching mainline employee college aged kids get on before you.

Maybe make it so that this only applies if you’re commuting to/from a trip.
 
You don't want AA's system though. Its really asinine really. Theoretically a newhire (ramper, agent, pilot, etc) KID would go ahead of a 30 year employee if the Kid checked in first.
 
Kingairer said:
You don't want AA's system though. Its really asinine really. Theoretically a newhire (ramper, agent, pilot, etc) KID would go ahead of a 30 year employee if the Kid checked in first.
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While it isnt a perfect system, I think time of check in it is a fair system. While at times the most junior
may benefit from it at the expense of a more senior employee, it allows everyone else in between to actually use the travel benefits. At times, everyone will be high or lower on the list and you wont be bumped out of a seat because a 45 year employee listed 40 minutes before departure. Everyone knows where they stand and can more easily plan if they will get on or not.

Not every work group has a jumpseat to fall back on if they cant get a seat in the back. I would go as far to say pilots benefit from time of check in the most. It there are multiple pilots trying to commute to work and another has priority for the jumpseat, you have a chance for being first in line for a seat in the back with check in time instead of being behind a bunch of 35-40 year employees.

Both systems have their good and bad sides but I wouldnt label either as assinine.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
While it isnt a perfect system, I think time of check in it is a fair system. While at times the most junior
may benefit from it at the expense of a more senior employee, it allows everyone else in between to actually use the travel benefits. At times, everyone will be high or lower on the list and you wont be bumped out of a seat because a 45 year employee listed 40 minutes before departure. Everyone knows where they stand and can more easily plan if they will get on or not.

Not every work group has a jumpseat to fall back on if they cant get a seat in the back. I would go as far to say pilots benefit from time of check in the most. It there are multiple pilots trying to commute to work and another has priority for the jumpseat, you have a chance for being first in line for a seat in the back with check in time instead of being behind a bunch of 35-40 year employees.

Both systems have their good and bad sides but I wouldnt label either as assinine.
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Pilots are often unable to check in right at 24 hours prior due to working. Happens to me all the time.

Plus pilots have families who can't ride the jumpseat.
 
i don't think it's right at all. but, i'm not paid to make decisions like that.

non rev priority for mainline vs contract feed is a pretty heated topic and i can see both sides of it...and have been on both sides.
 
phill1174 said:
I'm curious too. Mainline guys on APC are pretty fired up about it, but it's APC so things are usually pretty extreme over there. Retirees on FB were pretty upset about it as well.
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Where is it on APC? Looked and couldnt find it under majors. Also why would Endeavor be sold? If anything, expressjet will be merged into skywest now that they are loosing the Delta contract. Hopefully Endeavor doesnt turn into another Comair type situation where they make money then sell off the regional.
 
Derg said:
I don't think it's particularly right either. But I'm not about to light my hair on fire about it. Or maybe I should? :)

I'm confident Endeavor is going to be sold in the next five years so I think it'll magically solve itself.
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Sell it to UAL, I'll pm you my bank details for commission.
 
Derg said:
I don't think it's particularly right either. But I'm not about to light my hair on fire about it. Or maybe I should? :)

I'm confident Endeavor is going to be sold in the next five years so I think it'll magically solve itself.
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I’m curious what makes you think that?
 
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