FAA Issues Emergency Order of Revocation Against TapJets, Inc.

[BrettInLJ]

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_rele...d=22494&omniRss=press_releasesAoc&cid=102_P_R

"The FAA alleges that between Sept. 28, 2016 and Jan. 22, 2017, TapJets operated 10 passenger-carrying flights with pilots who were unqualified. On one of those flights, the airman who served as second-in-command only had a student pilot certificate, when a commercial pilot certificate was required, the FAA alleges. Additionally, the FAA alleges both TapJets’ President and its Director of Operations piloted several of these flights when either the crew was unqualified or the aircraft being used was unauthorized."

I hadn't heard of this outfit before which is perhaps a good thing.

 

[bLizZuE]

RJ captains thought they had it rough...

"Stop adding 'student pilot' to the end of your radio calls!"

 

[Roger Roger]

Looked at their website. It sort of looks like uber for 135 charter ops. Skeeeetchy

 

[Roger Roger]

Also lol

 

[av8tr1]

Tapjets website specifically says they don't actually operate the flights. So.....what really happened here?

"TapJets Technologies Inc, arranges flights on behalf of our clients with FAA Certified FAR Part 135 direct air carriers that exercise full operational control of charter flights at all times. All flights purchased on our platform will be operated by FAR Part 135 direct air carriers that have been certified to provide service for TapJets charter clients and that meet all FAA safety standards. Your itinerary will clearly state the name of the certified operator conducting your flight."

I also don't see them in the FAA database as having a certificate. So what got revoked?

 

[SFLAX]

Managements ability to ever be part of any air operations, requiring a license or certificate. Probable cant get a medical either.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Seems legit


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[NovemberEcho]

TapJets isn't an airline, or an aviation company. They're basically a travel agent. I'm confused. Maybe they meant Air Portugal lol

 

[MikeD]

Makes Freedom 1 airlines look like a highly professional op.

 

[jtrain609]

Student pilots aren't allowed in commercial ops? Someone should probably tell @mikecweb that.

 

[mikecweb]

Student pilots aren't allowed in commercial ops? Someone should probably tell @mikecweb that.

That Airbus is making you soft...er

 

[Deleted member 27505]

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_rele...d=22494&omniRss=press_releasesAoc&cid=102_P_R

"The FAA alleges that between Sept. 28, 2016 and Jan. 22, 2017, TapJets operated 10 passenger-carrying flights with pilots who were unqualified. On one of those flights, the airman who served as second-in-command only had a student pilot certificate, when a commercial pilot certificate was required, the FAA alleges. Additionally, the FAA alleges both TapJets’ President and its Director of Operations piloted several of these flights when either the crew was unqualified or the aircraft being used was unauthorized."

I hadn't heard of this outfit before which is perhaps a good thing.

Florida or Germany?
Covfefe.

 

[erice]

TapJets claims these were test flights carrying non-paying friends and family members, and as such fell under part 91, not part 135.

https://www.flyingmag.com/tapjets-battles-faa-over-emergency-revocation

 

[SFLAX]

So, test flights go from point A to B, people get off at point B and then....nice try.

 

[NovemberEcho]

So, test flights go from point A to B, people get off at point B and then....nice try.

How is it different than if you gave some friends a one way ride in a 172? (Legitimate question, I know nothing about FARS)

 

[Boris Badenov]

It's maybe a little bit instructive to note that they don't deny that they conducted a flight with a student pilot in the right seat, they dispute that it was conducted under 135.

Hang em high.

 

[BobDDuck]

How is it different than if you gave some friends a one way ride in a 172? (Legitimate question, I know nothing about FARS)

Generally when you fly your friend somewhere in a 172 it's not for profit. You can split costs, but that's about it. Also, it's your friend, not some people you got on board via advertising your services.

 

[tomokc]

A student pilot asked if she could have a "dual, cross-country instructional flight" to the OU-Texas football game with two friends in the back of a 172. Just a quick, same day down & back. Nothing in the regs prohibited it, but how would we explain it to FAA & NTSB if something went wrong? We declined.

 

[wheelsup]

A student pilot asked if she could have a "dual, cross-country instructional flight" to the OU-Texas football game with two friends in the back of a 172. Just a quick, same day down & back. Nothing in the regs prohibited it, but how would we explain it to FAA & NTSB if something went wrong? We declined.

Wow I would've never said no to that if I was the CFI. That is a good training event.

Now, if this "student pilot" shows up unannounced with no training history that is a totally different story. But from what you wrote that isn't the case.

 

[NovemberEcho]

Generally when you fly your friend somewhere in a 172 it's not for profit. You can split costs, but that's about it. Also, it's your friend, not some people you got on board via advertising your services.

Well I mean if what they are saying is true they were friends and family and not paying either