TFR over northeastern Nevada for S&R efforts
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Hiboglossi
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This is the Air America Aztec, right? Very sorry to hear about it. Hopefully he's safe but if it's already been a week that doesn't seem too likely. 
Yes sirThis is the Air America Aztec, right? Very sorry to hear about it. Hopefully he's safe but if it's already been a week that doesn't seem too likely.
That's a pretty massive area to search. I didn't think to check what the snow pack was like last week, but I believe in those Ruby mountains they have 10 to 40" according to NOAA and it looks like the Ruby Mountains got some snow on the 10th/11th and again today which would've hidden it a bit more especially if it broke up at all.
I might be misreading their measurements a bit, but you can do the last two weeks and it'll show every report by the hour.
http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/nsa/index.html?region=Great_Basin&year=2018&month=12&day=6&units=m
This is the Air America Aztec, right? Very sorry to hear about it. Hopefully he's safe but if it's already been a week that doesn't seem too likely.
It's amazing that this pilot was in the thread little over a week before the accident talking about the Air America Aztec that had the engine failure and then the gear failure that shut down CRW and I didn't put two and two together until I saw his photo when they were raising money to help his search and rescue.
I remember talking to a former AA pilot in winter of 2016 that was in training for the regionals and he was telling me about one of their Aztecs then where he claimed manager pressure caused a pilot being checked out in the Aztec to be cut loose too soon and the Aztec to have its gear collapse soon after the pilot was on his own. Then they had N21767 go down crippling the pilot and I believe they had one or two more gear ups in the Aztecs in such a short span. I'll have to dig up the records I found, but any single one of those incidents should've been a huge wakeup call to management and instead they decided to start going after pilots for damage to the planes, doubling down in the wrong direction.
When issue after issue after issue keeps coming up it's hard to blame the pilots and I'd instead look at their training and management pressure/expectations as these guys are typically fresh commercial or low time pilots most with limited to no mountain flying experience, much less winter weather experience and they need training or someone looking out for them so there made aware of all the ways that they don't yet realize how they can get killed, maimed or nearly one or the other. I flew with some great guys and I don't want to disrespect any of the people I flew with or that came after me, but now that I have a pretty good deal of time and experience I realize how little I knew back when it was my first job and I'm grateful as hell I didn't have to do any flights like this while I was low-time.
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