Save your pennies (aka what will you do after your job is automated)

wheelsup said:
The autopilot can already fly it without using the controls.

Why would it having a yoke matter?
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Ok, you win. So I don't make any money until I get about four more people underneath me as associates, right? :) When does my first check come and, in advance, you can't lease me a MBZ that I have to pay for out of sales. And my personal Facebook page will not be an extension of your marketing department! :)
 
It’s will all be great until one piles in and they send some pilots into the sim and they save it.
 
wheelsup said:
FedEx paid over a million bucks a pop to convert their DC10s to remove the FE station.

HUDs don't provide a cost savings. Cutting the pilot ranks by 50% would save on the order of $2b a year in costs at the legacies. That is an annual savings, lifetime over the life of each plane roughly $18m to remove one pilot. Just rounding the numbers.
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Our feeder airplane flight decks are more advanced than the the DC10 and 11s. We fly single pilot. I can easily see a exclusion for cargo in the near future for single pilot ops in a technically advanced upgraded MD-10/11.

If the ATRs weren't 121 they would already be flying single pilot. I'm pretty sure (70-30 or 80-20.) the Courier will be single pilot.

Cookie to the pilot who gets the hidden movie reference in there.....
 
av8tr1 said:
Our feeder airplane flight decks are more advanced than the the DC10 and 11s. We fly single pilot. I can easily see a exclusion for cargo in the near future for single pilot ops in a technically advanced upgraded MD-10/11.

If the ATRs weren't 121 they would already be flying single pilot. I'm pretty sure (70-30 or 80-20.) the Courier will be single pilot.

Cookie to the pilot who gets the hidden movie reference in there.....
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You will never see a single pilot MD-10/11.
 
wheelsup said:
Well you have a Microsoft device. If MS writes the code we're OK. If Apple does it we"re screwed. Not a single iPad issue over four years.
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Ha, there is an element of truth there. Though each our iDevices at home has experienced a few hiccups over the years (some more than others) so nothing is immune.

Aside from the technical aspect, we still have the very legit argument of the human element being hyper-critical to a safe operation. We make so many safety related decisions day in and day out that we often overlook the importance of them. And that's just on a good day, let alone when it all goes south.

Like others have said, the cost alone and the lumbering slowness of the FAA help me sleep well at night on this one.
 
mikecweb said:
You will never see a single pilot MD-10/11.
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Maybe not but I bet good money we see a "No" pilot MD-10/11 some day. Or some derivative of large capacity cargo airplane with no crew on board.

I'm not saying I am for it as a cargo pilot myself but I think the technology makes it inevitable.
 
av8tr1 said:
Maybe not but I bet good money we see a "No" pilot MD-10/11 some day. Or some derivative of large capacity cargo airplane with no crew on board.

I'm not saying I am for it as a cargo pilot myself but I think the technology makes it inevitable.
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Ironically I would bet FAs will still be required!

The #1/A/purser will probably be required to have some sort of ability to operate the aircraft manually just as a backup.
 
Derg said:
Ok, you win. So I don't make any money until I get about four more people underneath me as associates, right? :) When does my first check come and, in advance, you can't lease me a MBZ that I have to pay for out of sales. And my personal Facebook page will not be an extension of your marketing department! :)
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I'm not trying to 'win', just bring awareness. Plus I think the technology neat.
 
av8tr1 said:
Maybe not but I bet good money we see a "No" pilot MD-10/11 some day. Or some derivative of large capacity cargo airplane with no crew on board.

I'm not saying I am for it as a cargo pilot myself but I think the technology makes it inevitable.
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Sure how much you willing to throw down? It's not going to happen on that fleet.
 
wheelsup said:
Ironically I would bet FAs will still be required!

The #1/A/purser will probably be required to have some sort of ability to operate the aircraft manually just as a backup.
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Yay! every pilot gets retasked as a FA!
 
mikecweb said:
Sure how much you willing to throw down? It's not going to happen on that fleet.
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Ok, thats probably true. The MDs are getting a bit long in the tooth.

I do know of a company that wants to retask a bunch of 727s for the same purpose though.
 
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