Seeking advice- come back stateside or wait a bit?

mattc206

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Hey Guys, got a bit of a question, looking for some of that tried-tested and true JC Guidance! haha. So heres the numbers, I have 4300tt/2300 multi pic (all in the Kingair 200 doing medevac)/no degree (just a business diploma).

Right now I am flying the CRJ outside of the states, and the company is pushing me to upgrade (with a agreement to stay for 1 year) , but when I look at my goals, it is to come to the states (I have the FAA ATP and legal work authorization to come on down) and fly for a Major/National or LCC. AS/VA, B6 would be the dream jobs for sure.

Staying here? We do have a agreement for interviews with the airline "we fly for", but with the hmmmm "HR/degree/or diploma from one of of their favored aviation colleges centric" mindset they have, I am not confident in getting selected for that.

My original plan was to wait around to til May to make the move back state side and than park myself at a AA WO til I can get on with another major or LCC (and have the flow as a “insurance policy” ), but I’ve been advised that it may be a good idea to get at least 500 PIC in the RJ before deciding to make a move elsewhere. On one hand I see it as a good idea, to get that 500 Jet PIC at least so I can at least have it for any future jobs that may require it, but right now I already have 2300 turbine multi PIC in the B200. But I do see a difference between that type of PIC vs Airline PIC time. Hmmm, just speaking out loud here now I guess (haha)

Thoughts? On one hand it seems clear as day what to do, but it's nice to hear other points of view on the issue.

Thanks.
 
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It's hard to look in the ol' crystal ball and see what is going to be the condition of the industry in another year. Things look rosy now and you can make the move to a US regional and move up, or it could go in the pot and you are wishing you could get the PIC at your current employer.

I would stay where you are and try to get a degree in anything you can to be more marketable.
 
Without a degree I think you're facing a very hard time getting hired at an airline that flies anything bigger than an RJ. The wholly owed-flow through is not bad but those aren't written in stone and can go away at the first economic downturn. Get started yesterday on an online degree that you can complete as quick as possible. Also, consider going to a job fair when you're back in the US. If you know someone at AS/VX have them talk to Labrina and push your stuff through - there is a small chance their rec can overcome the degree-less situation. Good luck!

I would stay where you are and try to get a degree in anything you can to be more marketable.
 
I know your background a bit better.
My advice, for what it's worth, is to stay put and apply to the Majors/LcC's from the left seat of the CRJ.

You never know, you could "flow" to the 787...

If you come down here, you'll start from the bottom, with little reward for your efforts thus far.

I'll be heading to Airventure this summer. Come down and give me a shout.
 
I don't see how coming to a regional in the state will help you over Captain at a regional a few miles north. Apply to wherever now, and in the likely even they don't call, get that degree done asap.
 
I know some majors(B6,SW,UA,Spirit etc.), say high school diploma is what is required, the chances of you getting looked at are slim to none. At my BlueJuice factory the number of guys without a 4 year degree are minuscule even though you are not required to have it to get hired.. Something to consider.
 
I know some majors(B6,SW,UA,Spirit etc.), say high school diploma is what is required, the chances of you getting looked at are slim to none. At my BlueJuice factory the number of guys without a 4 year degree are minuscule even though you are not required to have it to get hired.. Something to consider.
At VX there's a sizable amount of dudes and dudettes without degrees, but what they did have was something to make up for that, like TPIC time, etc.
 
I'd try and find an Associates Aviation program, that way you could bank a lot of credit from your flying experience, and finish the degree quickly. It would put more on your resume sooner while you finish a bachelor's. I realize there are not many of these programs out there but it's another way to tackle the degree.
 
I know your background a bit better.
My advice, for what it's worth, is to stay put and apply to the Majors/LcC's from the left seat of the CRJ.

You never know, you could "flow" to the 787...

If you come down here, you'll start from the bottom, with little reward for your efforts thus far.

I'll be heading to Airventure this summer. Come down and give me a shout.

Exactly what I told him. Relying on a flow from a wholly owned is a waste and would probably take longer than applying from the outside.
 
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