DHS hacks 757 from gate

How many a y’all know anything about FMS/GPS/AFCS/FBW beyond which button to press to get your banana? I don’t, really, but you all sound like typical pilots talking about aircraft systems you don’t understand, or worse, understand just well enough to think you understand them.
Ive blown some of the boxes up in testing environments but i didnt design anything. My experience says no way, but you hear stuff like this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...ttack-uses-sound-computers-fan-steal-data/amp and i realize im not a digital security expert.

Again, sounds like weird mumbo jumbo to me. (If only it was a 747, that would have been a great pun).
 
Ive blown some of the boxes up in testing environments but i didnt design anything. My experience says no way, but you hear stuff like this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...ttack-uses-sound-computers-fan-steal-data/amp and i realize im not a digital security expert.

Again, sounds like weird mumbo jumbo to me. (If only it was a 747, that would have been a great pun).


That's a little misleading, as the "hackers" still had to install malware on the computer whose fan noise they were "sniffing"

It isn't like they could listen to the fan and tell what data the CPU was processing. They simply used a program to send essentially morse code once the malware had the data they were looking for. Smart, but not ZOMG haxor all the Airbii.
 
Not only that, it's still just collecting data wirelessly rather than manipulating the data. I acknowledge that a hacker can easily get access to ACARS data that can contain system information. But what they can't do is manipulate your flight controls or systems. These people have claimed to make an airplane climb by hacking it wirelessly. I call BS.
 
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Hell, they’re putting GPS and Pegasus on the 90s and those 88s that can handle it. Time for my 3rd “How to fly RNAV approaches” school.

I'm sure the mad dog has come a long way since my days of "dive 'n drive with the double-punch" non-precision approach procedures.
 
Not only that, it's still just collecting data wirelessly rather than manipulating the data. I acknowledge that a hacker can easily get access to ACARS data that can contain system information. But what they can't do is manipulate your flight controls or systems. These people have claimed to make an airplane climb by hacking it wirelessly. I call BS.
If you could take over a plane with ACARS crew scheduling would have solved their "we need you to do this DSM turn... this is not an option" problem a long time ago.
 
Eh, I don't think any airplanes we have *presently* will be autonomous but it's certainly an inevitability on some levels.

I test drove a Tesla Model S and played with the "autopilot" and watched how it works and I'm thoroughly convinced airplanes aren't that far around the corner, pardon the pun.

I don’t know if it was mentioned on these forums, but right up there with hacking... did you all see the temporary 2 week or so suspension of ADS for position reporting in WATRS airspace? Apparently 2 airplanes received messages to change altitude. Sent to said flights on a particular day. For some reason the flights did not receive them. Apparently bounced around the system for 24 hours until the same flight numbers checked on the next day. One crew was suspicious and called. I think the other crew followed the altitude change. This suspension was lifted when Iridium? fixed the ‘glitch.’ It will be a few more corners to turn before the powers that be shoot 300 people across the pacific with no humans in charge.

In other news...the ability to see the airplane on your ipad(ownship) was approved at my shop.
 
I don’t know if it was mentioned on these forums, but right up there with hacking... did you all see the temporary 2 week or so suspension of ADS for position reporting in WATRS airspace? Apparently 2 airplanes received messages to change altitude. Sent to said flights on a particular day. For some reason the flights did not receive them. Apparently bounced around the system for 24 hours until the same flight numbers checked on the next day. One crew was suspicious and called. I think the other crew followed the altitude change. This suspension was lifted when Iridium? fixed the ‘glitch.’ It will be a few more corners to turn before the powers that be shoot 300 people across the pacific with no humans in charge.

In other news...the ability to see the airplane on your ipad(ownship) was approved at my shop.

Yeah, really more to do with buffering and timestamps than it had to do with an external issue like a hacker.
 
FYI, Boeing has come out and said that the only thing this "hacker" messed with was comms. No flight controls, no critical systems.

You really don't think Boeing would be tripping over itself to acknowledge this or release this to the public do you?
 
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