CFI teaching skills

Mattyg36

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Hi all, I'm new here to the forum. I won't leave a huge introduction here as it's the wrong topic but long story short I'm pursuing a career change after 8 years in construction. And I guess my question for here is did any of you have a fear or notion that you wouldn't be any good at teaching others to fly?
I mean it's not that I don't want to go the CFI route. The idea of teaching other people like myself to fly sounds great..It's just becoming a decent instructor sounds overwhelming (if that makes sense). Anybody else here have that sense? Or any good stories about how they overcame it? Thanks much!
 
My training was more about just flying in the right seat with little emphasis on actual instruction. I would say if you have good training (find a place that does a lot of successful CFI training) I wouldn't be too concerned. Each time you go through a new phase in flying you'll feel overwhelmed at first. It's pretty normal. You just have to battle and do the best you can. You'll pick up techniques and gain confidence as you go along.
 
Hi all, I'm new here to the forum. I won't leave a huge introduction here as it's the wrong topic but long story short I'm pursuing a career change after 8 years in construction. And I guess my question for here is did any of you have a fear or notion that you wouldn't be any good at teaching others to fly?
I mean it's not that I don't want to go the CFI route. The idea of teaching other people like myself to fly sounds great..It's just becoming a decent instructor sounds overwhelming (if that makes sense). Anybody else here have that sense? Or any good stories about how they overcame it? Thanks much!
It does make sense. Better yet, if it seems overwhelming, you'll probably be a fine instructor. It's the folks who think teaching others is no big deal, who don't have the "right stuff."
 
Where are you in training? If you're not that far along then there is a lot of illumination that will happen between now and then. Fly with lots of instructors and remember the styles of both the good and the bad and build your own toolbox up over time.


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Anybody else here have that sense? Or any good stories about how they overcame it? Thanks much!

Given your concern about being a good instructor, you have a leg up on everyone else. There isn't any magic to it. You need to be an effective teacher. That doesn't have much to do with being a good pilot. Set a good example. Be relaxed. Encourage good habits. Don't get complacent.

If you make it to the point of being a CFI, you already know enough about flying. You will learn way more actually teaching than you ever did flying yourself. I do every day.
 
Given your concern about being a good instructor, you have a leg up on everyone else. There isn't any magic to it. You need to be an effective teacher. That doesn't have much to do with being a good pilot. Set a good example. Be relaxed. Encourage good habits. Don't get complacent.

Well, I've read enough around the aviation world to realize there's a way to present yourself In all aspects of flying from hour one to hour 10,000+ so I strive for professionalism everytime I fly. But I'll definitely keep all this in mind as I progress through the ratings, just always like to "look down the runway" as far as I can so to speak.

If you make it to the point of being a CFI, you already know enough about flying. You will learn way more actually teaching than you ever did flying yourself. I do every day.
Where are you in training? If you're not that far along then there is a lot of illumination that will happen between now and then. Fly with lots of instructors and remember the styles of both the good and the bad and build your own toolbox up over time.

About 20 hours into my private and getting ready to solo. That's another very helpful tip, take what works and put it in your own toolbox.


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Try practicing your lessons on people who have no aviation background. I practiced teaching ground on my mom. If she understood what I was talking about, then I knew I was doing ok.
Thats a really good idea! Gonna have to try that when I get there.
 
It's just becoming a decent instructor sounds overwhelming

It sounds like you have requirement #1 already "Actually give a damn about being a good teacher, not just building hours."

After that, it's an exercise in patience, empathy, and creativity. Obviously you need to know the subject matter that you are teaching, but understanding how to get through to students is the critical part. If you've been working in construction for 8 years, you've already been teaching new guys around the job site. Now you will have to do the same thing for an airplane.

You will learn more in your first 100 hours of dual given than you will at any other point in your career. Teaching students will force you to relearn and reexamine many things that you barely grasped when going through your own training, and will make you a better pilot overall.
 
That's a good point too USMCmech, never really thought that your really just teaching a different subject. And I understand that guys need to build hours and want to move on to something bigger but I don't see why you shouldn't be the best instructor you can be and give the people that want to learn a leg up, everybody's gotta start somewhere
 
That's a good point too USMCmech, never really thought that your really just teaching a different subject. And I understand that guys need to build hours and want to move on to something bigger but I don't see why you shouldn't be the best instructor you can be and give the people that want to learn a leg up, everybody's gotta start somewhere
Actually, most of the "time builders" I've encountered have been very good instructors who definitely gave a damn about their students.
 
I just got my CFI a few months ago and for the years leading leading up to instructing and even after getting it, I wondered the same question. You kind of come into it, for me I didn't really develop my teaching skills until I actually started teaching and even now I'm still and will be developing it for the rest of instructing career. Don't do something for the fear you won't succeed at it, get it and give it your best damn swing.
 
I just got my CFI a few months ago and for the years leading leading up to instructing and even after getting it, I wondered the same question. You kind of come into it, for me I didn't really develop my teaching skills until I actually started teaching and even now I'm still and will be developing it for the rest of instructing career. Don't do something for the fear you won't succeed at it, get it and give it your best damn swing.
This is spot on. I had the same reservations as the OP about whether or not I was going to be good at this teaching stuff. It's a HUGE responsibility for sure, but don't let any fear hold you back from pursuing this.

As coks said, your actual teaching skills won't be developed until you start doing the real thing. CFI school and the CFI checkride are one thing, teaching actual students is an entirely different matter. You may find that once you get to this point in your training (as a CFI candidate) that for the most part, teaching actual students is actually easier than 'teaching' a CFI or examiner. You're not really 'teaching' your CFI or the examiner/inspector. You're presenting to them. They're having to play 2 roles: they're acting as a 'student,' to throw in some kind of realism, as well as an instructor to assess your depth of knowledge and teaching abilities. Their job is to steer you in the right direction, and mold you into a teacher. If you have a CFI that's just wanting to prepare you for the CFI checkride, and not actually teaching you how to teach, then my advice is to steer clear of that person and go find a better CFI who really challenges you and holds you to a higher standard than just the 'checkride.' Because as I said, there is an enormous amount of responsibility on the part of the CFI. You are teaching somebody how to not kill themselves. And there is so much more to this job than just the checkride.

I like teaching, it's a lot of fun. I make it fun for my students. I do plenty of ground school, and it's pretty thorough. They in turn like and appreciate that. Teaching your students in the classroom first is extremely important. Don't try to 'teach on the go' and neglect ground school. Ground training is crucial. I've seen plenty of CFI's that just want to hop in the airplane and go log some hours and skip ground with the student. Don't do that. I've already picked up several students that were coming from other flight schools that weren't happy with the quality of their training, and the problem always seems to be that their previous CFI never wanted to do ground.

I love this job. Honestly I never thought I would love it as much as I do. It was a little overwhelming at first, I won't lie, but you eventually get past that. At the same time, I can't do this job forever, the pay just won't allow it. I want to eventually move on to better things. So I'm also a 'time builder' as well. If you're going to be a CFI, enjoy this stage of your career.

Look at this career as a journey, not a destination. Take it seriously, hold yourself to a high standard, hold your students to high standard, and be patient with them at the same time. Plenty of corporate and airline pilots have told me that flight instructing was the best kind of flying they've ever done. Don't 'Rush' to go off to the airlines or whatever. Your flight hours will come. Many students are quick to pick up on that mentality with instructors. I've had a few timebuilder CFI's who were awful. They shouldn't even be teaching. They acted like they didn't give a crap about teaching. They complained a lot. More than likely, they will complain about ANY job they get in aviation. On the other side of the coin, I've had some timebuilding CFI's who were really good! It's really the personality of the individual that makes the difference.
 
Actually, most of the "time builders" I've encountered have been very good instructors who definitely gave a damn about their students.
I experienced a "time builder" last year. He would show up late every time, about 15-20 minutes after I was done preflighting the aircraft, and then ask me what we're doing today. Then it was check Facebook and take selfies, or videos, or selfie videos almost continuously from that point on.
He wasn't engaged in what was going on, never paid any attention to what I was or wasn't doing right or wrong, and wasn't able to critique anything I did. He was worthless and couldn't care less if I was successful or not. He made it clear that he is only there to get to the airlines so it doesn't really matter if he's a good instructor or not because it's just a temporary phase that you have to go through. I had a few talks with him about it, but ended up firing him after giving him three chances, which I thought was way more than generous.
I don't ever want another instructor who has plans to go to the airlines. Ever.
 
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I experienced a "time builder" last year. He would show up late every time, about 15-20 minutes after I was done preflighting the aircraft, and then ask me what we're doing today. Then it was check Facebook and take selfies, or videos, or selfie videos almost continuously from that point on.
He wasn't engaged in what was going on, never paid any attention to what I was or wasn't doing right or wrong, and wasn't able to critique anything I did. He was worthless and couldn't care less if I was successful or not. He made it clear that he is only there to get to the airlines so it doesn't really matter if he's a good instructor or not because it's just a temporary phase that you have to go through. I had a few talks with him about it, but ended up firing him after giving him three chances, which I thought was way more than generous.
I don't ever want another instructor who has plans to go to the airlines. Ever.
I understand your frustrations, believe me I do. I went through the same thing with a couple of CFI's when I was finishing my ratings, and it pisses me off. However, I would estimate about 75% of CFI's do a fairly good job. You did the right thing in firing him. I've fired bad CFI's. Too many students are afraid to kick bad instructors to the curb.

Just understand that not all 'timebuilder' CFI's are bad. I had a 'timebuilder' CFI for commercial ASEL, and he was great. Did a pretty thorough job teaching and getting me prepped for my checkride. He is now at the airlines. I've heard many other positive stories of students who had timebuilder instructors. On the flip side of the coin, I've heard many negative stories of bad instructors who weren't career pilots. They were just doing instruction as a side job and never planned on going the airline route.

It all comes down to the personality of the CFI, and their work ethic. I'm planning on going to the airlines as well, but in the mean time, I do a thorough job with each student. This job must be taken seriously, it's the most important job in aviation. Sadly, not every CFI takes it seriously. Hold your CFI to a high standard. An instructor who is perpetually late, doesn't remember what the game plan is, and takes selfies during your time, is definitely somebody who needs to be fired
 
Thanks everyone! I definitely feel better about being a CFI someday (hopefully sooner rather than later)
An instructor only has one job. To care. If you do that, everything else falls into place.
It's been a few months, how's the progression?
 
I experienced a "time builder" last year. He would show up late every time, about 15-20 minutes after I was done preflighting the aircraft, and then ask me what we're doing today. Then it was check Facebook and take selfies, or videos, or selfie videos almost continuously from that point on.
He wasn't engaged in what was going on, never paid any attention to what I was or wasn't doing right or wrong, and wasn't able to critique anything I did. He was worthless and couldn't care less if I was successful or not. He made it clear that he is only there to get to the airlines so it doesn't really matter if he's a good instructor or not because it's just a temporary phase that you have to go through. I had a few talks with him about it, but ended up firing him after giving him three chances, which I thought was way more than generous.
I don't ever want another instructor who has plans to go to the airlines. Ever.
I've known pilots who were a$$holes. I've also met long-time CFIs who couldn't teach worth a damn. Hardly means all fit that description.
 
I suppose it's probably not fair for me to generalize every airline bound CFI as being like that, but I'm once bitten, twice shy now. I don't have time or money for that.
The positive take away is that I saw an example of a horrible instructor, and know what not to do! It was a learning experience.
 
Hi all...did any of you have a fear or notion that you wouldn't be any good at teaching others to fly?
I mean it's not that I don't want to go the CFI route. The idea of teaching other people like myself to fly sounds great..It's just becoming a decent instructor sounds overwhelming (if that makes sense). Anybody else here have that sense? Or any good stories about how they overcame it? Thanks much!
Hi Matty, the short answer is yes. Though I would call it more of a "concern" than a "fear." I agree it's overwhelming, but do you know how to eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
I'm working on my CFI right now too. I feel like I've been "working on it" forever, but I'm getting more confident.
I was getting very frustrated because I had a little bad luck streak going. Just as I saved enough to start on my CFI, I got deployed to the middle East. Then, after I came home the following year, I had to have shoulder surgery which put me out of flight training for another 6 months. A couple of bad instructors, a crooked flight school owner, and a massive IRS bill together completely wiped out all of my savings for flight training leaving me very little to show for all of my efforts.
I am saving again and should be good to go financially in a few more weeks, but I didn't know where to go for help finding a good instructor and was starting to think badly of the flight instruction industry as a whole. However, I knew there were good ones out there, I just had to find one. So, out of desperation, I went to the FSDO and asked which flight schools and/or instructors have a good first time go percentage.
I took the names and places he gave me and researched them all before deciding on one.
I'm going to meet my newest instructor tonight, but I've talked with him on the phone and kinda stalked him online briefly...I mean, researched him a little bit. I think (hope) he's going to be a really great fit.
Good luck, man!
 
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