Norwegian expansion

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Norwegian adds Denver and Seattle to US roster
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  • 06 April, 2017
  • SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro
  • BY: Edward Russell
  • Washington DC
Norwegian will begin service to Denver and Seattle Tacoma in September, expanding its US network to 13 cities.

The long-haul low-cost carrier will serve both cities from London Gatwick with 344-seat Boeing 787-9 aircraft, it says today.

Norwegian will offer twice-weekly flights to Denver from 16 September, and increase frequency to thrice weekly from 2 November for the peak winter season.

The airline will offer four-times weekly service to Seattle from 17 September.

“We are excited to offer more west coast routes for Americans who are looking for inexpensive access to London, with connections to several destinations across Europe,” says Thomas Ramdahl, chief commercial officer at Norwegian, in a statement.

Norwegian serves Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Oakland, near San Francisco, on the US west coast.

With Denver and Seattle, Norwegian will add five new US destinations to its map in 2017. Hartford, Newburgh Stewart and Providence flights on Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft begin in June.

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The airline will also add service to Newark Liberty airport, complementing its existing service to New York John F Kennedy, this year.

Norwegian will compete with British Airways to both Denver and Seattle from London, FlightGlobal schedules show. The Oneworld Alliance carrier offers service to both cities from London Heathrow airport.

Virgin Atlantic Airways also flies between London Heathrow and Seattle.

Norwegian is scheduled to take delivery of six 737 Max 8s and nine 787-9s in 2017, the Flight Fleets Analyzer shows. It has already taken one 787.
 
I think we will lose this fight because the American public wants cheap flights and is too dumb/not observant enough to understand the issues. The public just doesn't understand how this mess can affect our airline industry and how many jobs of many kinds will be affected.

"Norwegian" is using an effective advertising campaign to mask which entity is doing flying. The general public does not understand or note the difference between Norwegian (ok), Norwegian Air International (bad), or Norwegian Air UK (probably bad?) because every single press release from Norwegian's PR folks just calls it "Norwegian".

Most media folks seem to not understand the distinction between the entities, so the reporting does not do much to educate the public. So the public is going to eventually see this as just greedy US airlines and employees trying to keep prices high.
 
Beefy McGee said:
I think we will lose this fight because the American public wants cheap flights and is too dumb/not observant enough to understand the issues. The public just doesn't understand how this mess can affect our airline industry and how many jobs of many kinds will be affected.

"Norwegian" is using an effective advertising campaign to mask which entity is doing flying. The general public does not understand or note the difference between Norwegian (ok), Norwegian Air International (bad), or Norwegian Air UK (probably bad?) because every single press release from Norwegian's PR folks just calls it "Norwegian".

Most media folks seem to not understand the distinction between the entities, so the reporting does not do much to educate the public. So the public is going to eventually see this as just greedy US airlines and employees trying to keep prices high.
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It's ok, once it's all robots it won't matter whether they're Irish, Norwegian, or American robots.
 
Beefy McGee said:
I think we will lose this fight because the American public wants cheap flights and is too dumb/not observant enough to understand the issues. The public just doesn't understand how this mess can affect our airline industry and how many jobs of many kinds will be affected.

"Norwegian" is using an effective advertising campaign to mask which entity is doing flying. The general public does not understand or note the difference between Norwegian (ok), Norwegian Air International (bad), or Norwegian Air UK (probably bad?) because every single press release from Norwegian's PR folks just calls it "Norwegian".

Most media folks seem to not understand the distinction between the entities, so the reporting does not do much to educate the public. So the public is going to eventually see this as just greedy US airlines and employees trying to keep prices high.
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The public didn't care when it was the auto industry, the electronic industry, the textile industry, the ________ industry, and they won't care about the aviation industry.
 
gne in prog said:
The public didn't care when it was the auto industry, the electronic industry, the textile industry, the ________ industry, and they won't care about the aviation industry.
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Nobody cares . . . until it's their industry. Then, and only then, do they understand why so many decried the Walmartization of American wages, and why passively allowing themselves to be drawn to lower prices really does impact everyone at some point, including them.

But, by the time they learn that lesson, it's too late.
 
RDoug said:
Nobody cares . . . until it's their industry. Then, and only then, do they understand why so many decried the Walmartization of American wages, and why passively allowing themselves to be drawn to lower prices really does impact everyone at some point, including them.

But, by the time they learn that lesson, it's too late.
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Yup. I've heard people that have practically used the same breath to criticize automaker unions and say that our union is somehow different...then take a shallow breath to say that they're voting anti labor because "you know...the emails."
 
I highly doubt anyone in this thread has sought out exclusively USA made products so you really can't call the rest of the population dumb/stupid for not caring.

We should care more about leveling the playing field and the onerous regulations and fixing those to help our companies compete. NAI aircraft are actually fairly nice inside and they offer decent service from the reviews I've read.
 
wheelsup said:
I highly doubt anyone in this thread has sought out exclusively USA made products so you really can't call the rest of the population dumb/stupid for not caring.

We should care more about leveling the playing field and the onerous regulations and fixing those to help our companies compete. NAI aircraft are actually fairly nice inside and they offer decent service from the reviews I've read.
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Many people here were talking of their love of Sam's Club just a few threads down.
 
wheelsup said:
I highly doubt anyone in this thread has sought out exclusively USA made products so you really can't call the rest of the population dumb/stupid for not caring.

We should care more about leveling the playing field and the onerous regulations and fixing those to help our companies compete. NAI aircraft are actually fairly nice inside and they offer decent service from the reviews I've read.
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What onerous regulations?

People won't care until it effects them. Then suddenly they start crying. Typical attitude in America. For most people t's all about "consumer freedom" until it comes to THEIR job sector, then they want the government to get involved. But most people are too ignorant to give a crap and be proactive about REALLY protecting American jobs.
 
Beefy McGee said:
I think we will lose this fight because the American public wants cheap flights and is too dumb/not observant enough to understand the issues. The public just doesn't understand how this mess can affect our airline industry and how many jobs of many kinds will be affected.

"Norwegian" is using an effective advertising campaign to mask which entity is doing flying. The general public does not understand or note the difference between Norwegian (ok), Norwegian Air International (bad), or Norwegian Air UK (probably bad?) because every single press release from Norwegian's PR folks just calls it "Norwegian".

Most media folks seem to not understand the distinction between the entities, so the reporting does not do much to educate the public. So the public is going to eventually see this as just greedy US airlines and employees trying to keep prices high.
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You say that as thought the American consumer is somehow wrong for wanting the most value for their money. Forget the American consumer; throughout history, all people everywhere have always sought the best value for their money. That's just human nature. And the fact that you blame the consumer tells me you are looking at this the wrong way. It's not a fight, it's competition. And it can never be "won", because there are always new competitors. Today it's NAI, but tomorrow it will be somebody else. And somebody else the day after that. @wheelsup said it exactly right. You need to focus on enabling your respective employers to compete more effectively. What that will look like, I have no idea. But pursuing a protectionist strategy is not effective for the long term.
 
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