Any Offices want a formal jumpseat agreement with 5Y and PO?

[Mainline_or_bust]

With the pending move to CVG many 5Y/PO Dispatchers are considering jumpseating to a from on a regular basis(CVG-NY). A recent inquiry to the status of jumpseat agreements is alarming for someone who engages weekly.

I believe at some point we had agreements though which airlines is lost along with the actual agreements. Therefore, we are attempting to start from scratch or possibly amend flight crew agreements to include Dispatchers from both groups.

If you're thinking why would I jumpseat cargo?

1) You don't pay taxes when returning from abroad and often can use crew lines for Security and Customs.
2) There are no less 6 jump seats on our 747s, 4 on the 767s
3) On the 747s there is the possibility of using the bunks in the back (captain discretion (if invited and not being used)) otherwise business seats.
4) Barring DH crew you are given the JS 24hrs in advance, allowing planning in advance
5) Not sure what else but who would say no to more agreements...?

If interested send me a PM with some information for how to contact your JS coordinator.

 

[N77022]

Just noticed also Atlas JS is now bookable through ID90!

Hoping to get Delta at 9S. Quite a few Atlantans coming up to CVG next month.

 

[Tuesnightshenanigans]

Just noticed also Atlas JS is now bookable through ID90!

Hoping to get Delta at 9S. Quite a few Atlantans coming up to CVG next month.

That's what I've heard. It sucks not having Delta when you're in CVG.


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[CPZ9900]

Start with your pilot jumpseat coordinator. Polar/Atlas already has reciprocal agreements with a majority of carriers and they should be able to help you out immensely. Generally speaking if the pilots have a reciprocal agreement so do the dispatchers. Have them reach out to their respective contacts.

 

[mtsu13]

Delta would be nice but been told delta doesn't see the benefit and there was an incident back in the day between coordinators.


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[Mainline_or_bust]

Start with your pilot jumpseat coordinator. Polar/Atlas already has reciprocal agreements with a majority of carriers and they should be able to help you out immensely. Generally speaking if the pilots have a reciprocal agreement so do the dispatchers. Have them reach out to their respective contacts.

Yeah that's the strategy I believe. We're attempting to change the wording of the original pilot agreements to include Dispatchers on both ends. It might be easier to tackle it from both ends with each company.

 

[Juliet Zulu]

Phil Brooks (UAL Dispatcher and ADF Jumpseat Guru) is a great resource. jumpseat@dispatcher.org

 

[z987k]

So Atlas' official policy afaik is if we can look you up in cass you can ride. So all dispatchers from other carriers can already ride on us.

 

[Mainline_or_bust]

So Atlas' official policy afaik is if we can look you up in cass you can ride. So all dispatchers from other carriers can already ride on us.

That's true to my knowledge as well, though there was an incident. A 5Y Dispatcher wasn't allowed to occupy the jumpseat because a reciprocal agreement wasn't found. Thus sparking our interest as a group to add verbiage to pilot agreements and make the technical, official.

 

[Mainline_or_bust]

Phil Brooks (UAL Dispatcher and ADF Jumpseat Guru) is a great resource. jumpseat@dispatcher.org

Thanks, I'll see what Phil has to say. It's odd because I'm new here and our old dogs barely jumpseat so this hasn't been a problem or priority. Half have used it 0-3 in the last 10 years or so!

 

[Juliet Zulu]

Thanks, I'll see what Phil has to say. It's odd because I'm new here and our old dogs barely jumpseat so this hasn't been a problem or priority. Half have used it 0-3 in the last 10 years or so!

accept the following:

1. death is certain
2. taxes are certain
3. dispatchers will always have a hard time jumpseating

 

[manniax]

accept the following:

1. death is certain
2. taxes are certain
3. dispatchers will always have a hard time jumpseating

While there is some truth in this, I think it's a bit better than it used to be, since dispatchers are now in CASS. I think being at a major colors my perception some though, as it's easier if the agents all know the name of your airline vs. being at a regional or small cargo operation. In general, agents seem to be the most difficult bunch to deal with; crews are usually much more willing to at least check their manual.

 

[Juliet Zulu]

While there is some truth in this, I think it's a bit better than it used to be, since dispatchers are now in CASS. I think being at a major colors my perception some though, as it's easier if the agents all know the name of your airline vs. being at a regional or small cargo operation. In general, agents seem to be the most difficult bunch to deal with; crews are usually much more willing to at least check their manual.

You're absolutely right, Manniax. It has gotten a lot better. CASS definitely helped us in a big way. Hope to see ya in October in Dallas!

jz