Really JetBlue? REEEEAAAAALLLLYYYYY??????

mastermags said:
Seems like manipulation through the media to me. All LLC traffic goes out of D. Does Jetblue own the leases to the gates it is demanding? It will probably work out as well as it did for Qatar when they dictated where they would be parking at on F.
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I'm reasonably sure that Delta sees any LCC competition at Atlanta as Life Limited Components (LLC).
 
ClarkGriswold said:
I doubt they will even notice them there.
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Increase competition is exactly what they'll notice. The 4 primary US carriers are frequently asked at quarterly earnings calls about low cost competition at their hub airports (ORD...IAH...etc). While it represents a limited number of seats the pricing power pressures the carrier that basically owns the market.

DL's pricing power on a route like ATL-BOS will decline. No bueno for them.
 
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learhawkerbe400 said:
I love when the delta blowhards come out in full force
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Cptnchia said:
I doubt it. This is the second time that JB has tried this. The first time, Delta just flooded the market with seats, undercut JB's margin, and drove them out.
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Jetblue was 2 years old and flew ATL to???????? Answer : LGB & OAK.

Not a similar scenario.

BOS will just be less of a cash cow that's all.
 
Here’s a timeline on JetBlue’s history in Atlanta:

  • February 18, 2003: JetBlue, a carrier just 3-years-old at the time, announces it plans to launch flights from Atlanta, with daily flights to Long Beach, Calif.
  • March 3, 2003: Just two weeks after JetBlue’s announcement, AirTran Airways announces it plans to add two daily flights to Los Angeles International, which sits about 22 miles away from the Long Beach Airport. AirTran announces introductory fares of $99 one way, or $198 round trip.
  • March 6, 2003: Three days later, Delta announces it will add more flights to Los Angeles.
  • May 8, 2003: Then-Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin christened a JetBlue Airbus A320 with bottles of Coca-Cola before the plane took off for its inaugural route to Long Beach, Calif.
  • June 5, 2003: AirTran launches its Atlanta-Los Angeles flights, becoming the third carrier flying the route.
  • October 2003: JetBlue announces it will pull out of Atlanta. "We just thought it was a little crazy, " said JetBlue’s then-Chief Executive Officer David Neeleman. "It became a kind of a war between AirTran and Delta, " he said. "We certainly with our cost structure could have stayed in there for a long time just to . . . prove a point, but we're not into proving points. We're just into making money.”
  • 2011: Southwest completes its acquisition of AirTran Airways, including AirTran’s Atlanta operation.
  • July 2016: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution exclusively reports that JetBlue plans to resume Atlanta flights in 2017.
 
jtrain609 said:
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Baronman said:
Jetblue was 2 years old and flew ATL to???????? Answer : LGB & OAK.

Not a similar scenario.

BOS will just be less of a cash cow that's all.
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CRJDriver said:
Here’s a timeline on JetBlue’s history in Atlanta:

  • February 18, 2003: JetBlue, a carrier just 3-years-old at the time, announces it plans to launch flights from Atlanta, with daily flights to Long Beach, Calif.
  • March 3, 2003: Just two weeks after JetBlue’s announcement, AirTran Airways announces it plans to add two daily flights to Los Angeles International, which sits about 22 miles away from the Long Beach Airport. AirTran announces introductory fares of $99 one way, or $198 round trip.
  • March 6, 2003: Three days later, Delta announces it will add more flights to Los Angeles.
  • May 8, 2003: Then-Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin christened a JetBlue Airbus A320 with bottles of Coca-Cola before the plane took off for its inaugural route to Long Beach, Calif.
  • June 5, 2003: AirTran launches its Atlanta-Los Angeles flights, becoming the third carrier flying the route.
  • October 2003: JetBlue announces it will pull out of Atlanta. "We just thought it was a little crazy, " said JetBlue’s then-Chief Executive Officer David Neeleman. "It became a kind of a war between AirTran and Delta, " he said. "We certainly with our cost structure could have stayed in there for a long time just to . . . prove a point, but we're not into proving points. We're just into making money.”
  • 2011: Southwest completes its acquisition of AirTran Airways, including AirTran’s Atlanta operation.
  • July 2016: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution exclusively reports that JetBlue plans to resume Atlanta flights in 2017.
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Seems I struck a nerve.
 
Cptnchia said:
Seems I struck a nerve.
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Eh... not with me. I honestly don't care if we fly to ATL or not. If our mgmt was too stupid not to get the gate situation in writing, then it is their fault and someone in mgmt dropped the ball because they were 'promised' a certain gate.
 
When Qatar did this exact same thing a few months ago, I remember many people having much different opinions.
 
Wait so you made all of these good-faith preparations, including selling a bunch of tickets to sucke...er customers, based on some dude saying "yeah, sure, we will give you whatever gates you want, JetBlue!"

I don't believe you.
 
Cptnchia said:
I doubt it. This is the second time that JB has tried this. The first time, Delta just flooded the market with seats, undercut JB's margin, and drove them out.
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JetBlue was in a very different place then. I suspect this will be a very lucrative market for Blue. Look at ATL - JFK, and ATL - MCO. Both are dominated by Big D. Even if they don't put a dent in Delta's traffic, it will be a great thing for the company.
 
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