Current Piedmont Info

KappaSigmaPilot

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I am about to hit 3 years at my current carrier and I'm looking at another 6ish years until I would be eligible to upgrade. I am curious if anyone has any information on Piedmont with regards to upgrade, QOL, work rules, etc. I spoke with a recruiter a few days ago who said a new hire with 1000 121 would be able to hold captain as soon as they finished their initial training with the company... is this accurate? Also, as the Dash disappears will those fresh upgrades be displaced once back on the ERJ? If I somehow missed these answers on another thread, my apologies. Thanks in advance for any insight
 
hey dude I left XJT to come to PDT. Upgrades are 6 months on the jet right now. Takes 3-4 months to get on the line with the training back up. So basically upgrade is immediatly
 
hey dude I left XJT to come to PDT. Upgrades are 6 months on the jet right now. Takes 3-4 months to get on the line with the training back up. So basically upgrade is immediatly

Holy crap. I cut my teeth at piedmont and we had guys in my class leaving before IOE was complete to go to XJT.

I love this industry, so stable...


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I am about to hit 3 years at my current carrier and I'm looking at another 6ish years until I would be eligible to upgrade. I am curious if anyone has any information on Piedmont with regards to upgrade, QOL, work rules, etc. I spoke with a recruiter a few days ago who said a new hire with 1000 121 would be able to hold captain as soon as they finished their initial training with the company... is this accurate? Also, as the Dash disappears will those fresh upgrades be displaced once back on the ERJ? If I somehow missed these answers on another thread, my apologies. Thanks in advance for any insight
The upgrade time you cite here is accurate. The fleet and pilot group is growing so the likelihood of getting bumped back down to FO is slim.

Work rules are generally pretty good for the regional world. The biggest complaint is with the schedules. You can pretty much expect to have 11-12 days off working nothing but 4 day trips with 2 days off in between. Lines credit around 75 hours in the offpeak winter months and 90+ during the busier spring/summer/fall months. All Dashes will be gone by the end of next year with most of them being retired this year. I live in base, so this time of year I just bid reserve and make the same credit as I would if I had bid a line while barely working (I've worked 2 days so far this month). In the summer I still bid reserve but I pick up that sweet 3x premium pay and credit well above what the lines are worth.
 
The upgrade time you cite here is accurate. The fleet and pilot group is growing so the likelihood of getting bumped back down to FO is slim.

Work rules are generally pretty good for the regional world. The biggest complaint is with the schedules. You can pretty much expect to have 11-12 days off working nothing but 4 day trips with 2 days off in between. Lines credit around 75 hours in the offpeak winter months and 90+ during the busier spring/summer/fall months. All Dashes will be gone by the end of next year with most of them being retired this year. I live in base, so this time of year I just bid reserve and make the same credit as I would if I had bid a line while barely working (I've worked 2 days so far this month). In the summer I still bid reserve but I pick up that sweet 3x premium pay and credit well above what the lines are worth.

Awesome. Thank you for the info. It sounds like a pretty good deal.
 
I just finished SOE last week and it looks like I may get 145 CA within the next month or 2. I was hired the end of October
 
How many -145s are being transferred over there? No one here at envoy seems to know.
No one knows an exact number. Just that it involves staffing capabilities. The more that can be staffed the more jets that will be delivered. #16 arrived the other day. Given the number of pilots still on the Dash, I'd expect a minimum of 40 at this point with more being very likely considering that hiring is going well right now.
 
No one knows an exact number. Just that it involves staffing capabilities. The more that can be staffed the more jets that will be delivered. #16 arrived the other day. Given the number of pilots still on the Dash, I'd expect a minimum of 40 at this point with more being very likely considering that hiring is going well right now.
I think it'll be a minimum of 50. You guys are getting an ERJ sim from what I understand, and the magic number of airplanes AAG requires before putting a sim in house is 50 airplanes. On the regional side anyway.
 
I think it'll be a minimum of 50. You guys are getting an ERJ sim from what I understand, and the magic number of airplanes AAG requires before putting a sim in house is 50 airplanes. On the regional side anyway.
I agree that 50+ is more likely. The CLT dash sim ran it's final session the other day and is beginning the month long process of being dismantled and removed. The ERJ sim is going in right after that.
 
Phew. A far cry from the mid 90s when Mesa was taking flying left and right, any added airplanes meant the same number given away to ALG, upgrade times asymptotically approaching infinity and 1/3 of the list made up of guys not going anywhere (not that there's anything wrong with that).

But hey, I got my pension statement saying at 65 I'll get $23/mo for life. So I got that going for me, which is nice....big hitter, the 'Lama.

Richman
 
I believe the PDT plan was terminated normally so no PBGC involved. If a DB plan has reached a certain level of funding (typically >104%) it can be terminated and simply allowed to wind down.

I'd have to pull out the funding statement, but I recall that the level of benefits was very modest (1% x FAE x years of service) and the number of remaining participatants pretty low. We're talking about a time where captains were maxing out at 60k.

Richman
 
I agree that 50+ is more likely. The CLT dash sim ran it's final session the other day and is beginning the month long process of being dismantled and removed. The ERJ sim is going in right after that.
Do you happen to know who/what company is taking the sim out?
 
Do you happen to know who/what company is taking the sim out?
I've heard two different things about what is happening to the Dash8 sim, though the two things might be the same buyer...but, I've heard from one reputable source that Wilson Air at CLT bought it. I heard from another reputable source that the Dash sim is being moved to Concord, NC buy it's buyer. Maybe Wilson will operate it in Concord, but I don't know anything about Wilson or what's in Concord to support such a claim. The only thing I can say is that the people who said these things are very close to the source. But, we've all heard that line before. It would be funny if the sim ended up in the CLT area after all with PDT pilots still using the old sim for recurrent training.
 
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