Accident

RJ85 I believe. Truly sad news.

There's some discussion at another board regarding the GC distance between Santa Cruz and Medellin, 1600nm...
 
I guess one of the survivors is saying it ran out of fuel, but when they declared emergency they said electrical issue.
 
NovemberEcho said:
I guess one of the survivors is saying it ran out of fuel, but when they declared emergency they said electrical issue.
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Possibility. Looks like no fire in the pics I've seen. Also looks like the plane fell straight down flat. Ran out of fuel then stall?
 
NovemberEcho said:
I guess one of the survivors is saying it ran out of fuel, but when they declared emergency they said electrical issue.
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Does this thingh ave an APU??? I'll bet the lights went out as a result of the engines going out. OR, what's the fuel consumption rate of an APU?? Wondering if that had an influence as well
 
ArcherII said:
In Argentina, journalists are keen on the version that the pilot purposely vented fuel to avoid an explosion upon crash...
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This from the press from a country that's usually as stubborn as they come. How else to explain Maradona's devotion and the Falklands??
 
After seeing a journalist get an aviation story wrong for the 1137th time, I finally asked an actual journalist why this happens so frequently. There were multiple answers:

1) Reporters make efforts to get things right. Sources are usually credible but get details wrong. Depending on deadlines, there may not be time to cross reference a source who comes across as authoritative. This is generally problem with stories of a more technical nature.
2) Fact checkers are less common than you'd think. Like aviation, journalism doesn't pay very well, involves long hours, and there aren't enough people doing the "grunt" work who want to do it. Things get missed sometimes.
3) Some sources intentionally give reporters mis-information to drive an agenda. This happens a lot. Good reporters learn not to use that source again. Not all reporters are good.
4) Editors often override content/copy to meet specific goals. Occasionally, what a reporter wrote is not what gets published. Editors can (and do) sometimes make tough decisions about cutting items or "fixing" them. This is a highly subjective situation, but it does happen from time to time.

I find a lot of commonalities between journalism and aviation. There is interesting overlap in some areas.
 
I'm not sure how such a flight would get beyond the planning stage without an enroute fuel stop being planned... Is there anything to indicate they didn't stop along the way for fuel?
 
GypsyPilot said:
I'm not sure how such a flight would get beyond the planning stage without an enroute fuel stop being planned... Is there anything to indicate they didn't stop along the way for fuel?
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I'm more concerned about the crew (or the operator) HAVING to land at a long range flight on an IMC airport.
 
MaRiO FDZ said:
I'm more concerned about the crew (or the operator) HAVING to land at a long range flight on an IMC airport.
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What does that have to do with anything? As long as you gas up on the way over, no biggie. I looked at the approach plate, seems pretty straight forward.

I would be much more concerned about the decision making process to not include a fuel stop for such a flight. It just didn't make sense. That's why I'm asking if that's factual or not.
 
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