Regional CA vs LCC FO...

Lunchbox said:
Well I should have added that I'm able to have those days off with high credit because I got lucky and moved up quicky in base. I'm able to hold all 7-8 hr day trips. A typical new hire reserve or line holder gets min days off and some bases have very slow movement so YMMV. The quick upgrades are new bases or the virtual base which is uncommutable if you're junior. The job fairs or internal reqs are the fastest way to get a call.
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What are the junior bases at Allegiant?
 
chrisreedrules said:
How long to hold SFB if you may know...
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The previous vacancy award showed a September hire for SFB Airbus and there are 10 current SFB MD80 vacancies that will probably go to the November new hire class.

Kingairer, it's all personal preference. Almost all of our AA recalls have resigned from AA to stay here and there were a couple that went back when the recall first started that tried to get their #'s back at G4. It's a massive QOL hit going back on the road but there is no doubt you can bring in more retirement and higher rates with wide-body flying.
 
Lunchbox said:
Kingairer, it's all personal preference. Almost all of our AA recalls have resigned from AA to stay here and there were a couple that went back when the recall first started that tried to get their #'s back at G4.
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To be fair you can't really compare most of those guys to someone who has a flow today. Most of our AA recalls stayed as well. Their age, Captain seniority here, past experience (I.E. TWA) all combine to make it difficult to accept the recall.

Someone a lot younger with a flow is in a completely different position.
 
I left the flow behind for a LCC and haven't regretted it one day since leaving the regionals. The QOL I have now compared to then is more than I could have ever imagined even in the best case scenario.

This is of course my experience and I am sure people in my position may have a different outlook.
 
So I left my regional when I had 700+ hours to go to a ULCC. Now I'm on my second ULCC and while I'm glad for the experiences that I've acquired in the last two years, if I had it to do all over again I would have stayed at the regional as a CA.
 
Eagle421flyer said:
So I left my regional when I had 700+ hours to go to a ULCC. Now I'm on my second ULCC and while I'm glad for the experiences that I've acquired in the last two years, if I had it to do all over again I would have stayed at the regional as a CA.
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I should add I was a FO and still would not be able to hold the left seat if I had stayed (5.5 years).
 
AAPalmTree said:
No offense but this is kind of laughable. It's about getting on ASAP. The 23 year old 1,500 hour atp at AA,DL,UAL will gain plenty of experience. I'm not going to sacrifice QOL and money for another notch on my belt.
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Getting on ASAP is not the be all and end all. Where as before it was a given you were going to spend some "quality" time in the trenches, so you would get your licks at being bossman, there is rapid movement now. Just like the 250 hour wonder 99.9% isn't fit to be a regional pilot, the 1500 hour ATP guy probably isn't quite fit to be a legacy pilot, though with more exceptions. It's not another notch on your belt, it's learning how to do most of the facets of the job you're ultimately being hired to do at an appropriate level.
 
Rocketman99 said:
Getting on ASAP is not the be all and end all. Where as before it was a given you were going to spend some "quality" time in the trenches, so you would get your licks at being bossman, there is rapid movement now. Just like the 250 hour wonder 99.9% isn't fit to be a regional pilot, the 1500 hour ATP guy probably isn't quite fit to be a legacy pilot, though with more exceptions. It's not another notch on your belt, it's learning how to do most of the facets of the job you're ultimately being hired to do at an appropriate level.
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The burden is on the company to hire guys they feel are fit to sit in the left seat and fit the company mold from day one.
 
Rocketman99 said:
Getting on ASAP is not the be all and end all. Where as before it was a given you were going to spend some "quality" time in the trenches, so you would get your licks at being bossman, there is rapid movement now. Just like the 250 hour wonder 99.9% isn't fit to be a regional pilot, the 1500 hour ATP guy probably isn't quite fit to be a legacy pilot, though with more exceptions. It's not another notch on your belt, it's learning how to do most of the facets of the job you're ultimately being hired to do at an appropriate level.
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Cmon, don't you know it's not cool to admit that skill and experience are relevant factors for an airline pilot? As long as you pass training it's good enough and beyond that what really matters is that you dress cool on the layover and don't talk about flying.
 
Well that was shocking how senior the virtual base 80 CA award went at G4, OCT 2015 hire. Most junior Airbus CA award was a Aug 2015 hire for PIT if anybody cares. I never thought we'd see faster upgrades at DAL. I wonder how junior their virtual base CA will go now that they are creating it (possibly?) with the new TA they may vote in.
 
Gotta play the long game. If youre looking at making this a career, look past the 5 year mark, look 10-15 years. Where do you want to be then?
 
The PIC time will help, not just on the resume but moreso in helping you become a better pilot. Unless you want to make a career at the LCC, I'd take the upgrade and enjoy the pay boost while gaining high quality experience.
 
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