Sidebar question, but for guys coming out of newhire class then and going to FE/SO, did they all start on the 727, or could one start as an L-1011 FE? Or was that considered a position for an experienced FE?
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Sidebar question, but for guys coming out of newhire class then and going to FE/SO, did they all start on the 727, or could one start as an L-1011 FE? Or was that considered a position for an experienced FE?
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
So you'd rather have kids?
Man you ask a lot of questions!
Nope, never (knock on wood) ended up on a divert to/from work except when I ended up in LAS when PHX shut down and the crew timed out, but that's just 'up the street' and I got an inexpensive hotel and whooped it up until I jumpseated home, same crew, same flight number, but the next morning. Why dispatchers use TUS as an alternate when the WX in PHX is bad is hilarious. America West would pretty much send 50% of their fleet there and gas gets skoshe real fast.
Should've WX diverted you to IGM.......
obx
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Commuting to a trip is A LITTLE different than commuting to a sim event as a new hire. There are mechanisms in place to protect the integrity of the schedule when you're commuting to a trip. Those same mechanisms do not exist when commuting to a sim event, obviously.
At the end of the day is this guy or gal gonna get canned because they miss their commute and miss their sim? NO. But, as any of us know, this career is all about mitigating risks, staying off the radar, and finding paths of least resistance. I'd ask myself: "As a new hire in training, what can I do to stay off the radar and keep my and MY SIM PARTNER'S progression moving fluidly forward? If I have a couple of hiccups in the sim and need an extra sim session or two, what have I done to ensure that the integrity of my schedule has stayed intact and I haven't exhausted any goodwill from the company?" etc, etc, etc . . .
Five years from now when I'm applying to my dream legacy am I going to regret the Thanksgiving that I missed listening to my racist drunk uncle talk about how The Donald is gonna "MAGA" or am I gonna be trying to figure out how I can explain that I had a gap in my sim training because I missed my commute and the rocket surgeons in the training scheduling department couldn't get me back on the books for half month? I'd skip the dry turkey and fourth presidential debate around the family Thanksgiving table and stay in MSP. There are some great bars in MSP. Take the late morning to study and head to the training center to knock out some flows. Then take the light rail downtown and knock back some Wild Turkey at some pretty fun bars.
Edit to add: the Vikings play Detroit on Thanksgiving day. You will have no problem finding bars open in MSP on Thanksgiving. Go have some fun.
Screaming_Emu
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I'd also like to add a blurb. For those advocating buying a ticket being an option, that still isn't exactly risk free. Twice in the last year the wife and I have purchased tickets somewhere and ended up needing to rent a car and drive due to cancellations. That might be a better story for the chief pilot, but not necessarily without risk.
Any, or, whatever went unbid. My class had 10 727C slots, 10 MD88 slots, an L1011 or two and some 737 slots.
Should've WX diverted you to IGM.......
Could you imagine dropping 200 "Big city, high falootin'" passengers in IGM overnight?
It's hard enough finding high octane fuel for the beemer!
I have a story from a regional pilot who missed some training events, then when he eventually called in sick for a regular trip during his probationary year, they saw the total history and went, "Weeeeeeeeeeeeell, lets take care of this while you're still on probation" and away… he… went. :/
On a 727 or L-1011, you'd start as C, never go right to B?
Could you imagine dropping 200 "Big city, high falootin'" passengers in IGM overnight?
And watch them scoff at meal choices such as the Iron Skillet...although as far as truck stop food goes,it's not horrible.
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Iron Skillet at Petro has some good dinner buffet items!
Better than Golden Corral, which around here is pretty much the off-base enlisted chow hall.
Every time I stop there the Dunkin' Donuts is out of donut holes. GRR.
Amazing beef jerky selection. Nothing like arriving in Vegas reeking of mummified meat and Red Bull.
The movie Universal Soldier was filmed there, during our time there.
Lilo's? Or the Road Kill?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Man you ask a lot of questions!
Nope, never (knock on wood) ended up on a divert to/from work except when I ended up in LAS when PHX shut down and the crew timed out, but that's just 'up the street' and I got an inexpensive hotel and whooped it up until I jumpseated home, same crew, same flight number, but the next morning. Why dispatchers use TUS as an alternate when the WX in PHX is bad is hilarious. America West would pretty much send 50% of their fleet there and gas gets skoshe real fast.
On the missed commute, my Delta flight cancelled, I went over to USAirways which would get me to NYC about an hour before my show time, that flight had significant delays, I told scheduling that I'd be landing in the USAirways terminal at my check-in time and I'd call them when I landed. I called my captain and told him the situation and the inbound flight number. NO problem. Get to JFK, jetway breaks, another 45 minutes on the jet and I'm in the back of the aircraft and terminals away. On landing, I told CS what the situation was, I called the captain and he said just to show up whenever I could, he'd take care of the rest of it and we launched. Only pushed back about 3 minutes late I think.
Never heard a peep about it because again, if you're going to commute, you're going to have to put your big boy pants on and make sacrifices because the world doesn't revolve around your need to live in one place, but work out of another.
I just blocked trips together and planned in advance. I only commuted PHX to JFK once a month, maybe twice, tops and pre-117 I'd just go two back-to-back six day Europe trips, stay in NYC in between trips and fly home when it was over. Easiest commute, internationally, ever.
Domestic NYC? Forget it. and I was 60% in the category with a solid line. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE.
If it were pure JFK, no problem, but LGA and EWR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… I'd rather walk 50 miles through knee-deep fresh diarrhea with bare feet then watch cable news blasted at 90db than to ever do that again. I lasted a month and I said "fuggebowdit".
Thanks! And yes I do. The other ones I had were asked by MikeD. Pilots are inquisitive cats, what can I say
