121 regs

jhugz said:
Just trying to get a jump on it. A lot of it is self study CBTs so I want to get a decent baseline of knowledge down. Very fast passed for 121 is what it seems.


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Piedmont or Compass? :)
 
jhugz said:
Just trying to get a jump on it. A lot of it is self study CBTs so I want to get a decent baseline of knowledge down. Very fast passed for 121 is what it seems.


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If you have a class date somewhere, I'd think you'd be WAY better off studying the FOM or GOM or whatever they call it. The regs and ops specs and company procedures are melted together into a big FAA approved manual and that's what they will be teaching you. Our study reference database doesn't even have a link to 121. It does include Ops Specs, though. Outside a few exceptions the FOM or GOM will be your primary reference for flight ops policy and procedures.
 
DE727UPS said:
If you have a class date somewhere, I'd think you'd be WAY better off studying the FOM or GOM or whatever they call it. The regs and ops specs and company procedures are melted together into a big FAA approved manual and that's what they will be teaching you. Our study reference database doesn't even have a link to 121. It does include Ops Specs, though. Outside a few exceptions the FOM or GOM will be your primary reference for flight ops policy and procedures.
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Got it. Issue is they won't give me materials until I have a class date scheduled and being a 135 guy with no 121/jet etc. I'm doing my best not to fall behind. I wish they'd give me the materials early but I understand their reasoning.


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It's ACMI. We're a bunch of ignorant slobs :p . It probably won't be difficult, but respect for preparing yourself. Really just wait until you get access to your FCOM/AFM whatever they call it at your shop. 90% of newhire training is probably based on that with the remaining 10% being based on the FOM, which are the 121 regulations relevant to your operation. I really can't recall being asked anything at all related to regulations/FOM during initial type training in a school house outside of the 1st week of basic indoc and the short quiz on the last day. Usually the FOM/regs quizzing happens during OE and maybe during your LOFT/Cat II/III sim events, which are typically low-stress after the type ride.
 
jhugz said:
Got it. Issue is they won't give me materials until I have a class date scheduled and being a 135 guy with no 121/jet etc. I'm doing my best not to fall behind. I wish they'd give me the materials early but I understand their reasoning.


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You'll probably be surprised at how much being a 135 guy will actually help. I found my first 121 training was simply building on the foundation that had been build flying 135.

I wouldn't get too worried about falling behind. You should get some sort of training syllabus that should detail what topics are being covered. Use that to get ahead the night before class by reading your company manuals. Write down questions to stuff you don't understand and if the instructors don't cover the material sufficient enough for you to be satisfied, ask questions.
 
BobDDuck said:
I dunno... I've worked at two different 121 outfits and at both places the majority of the guys were/are pretty damn familiar with opspec and 121 language. The terps stuff, less so.
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DE727UPS said:
If you have a class date somewhere, I'd think you'd be WAY better off studying the FOM or GOM or whatever they call it. The regs and ops specs and company procedures are melted together into a big FAA approved manual and that's what they will be teaching you. Our study reference database doesn't even have a link to 121. It does include Ops Specs, though. Outside a few exceptions the FOM or GOM will be your primary reference for flight ops policy and procedures.
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We've had a retired Delta and United guy go through recently that echo exactly what you're on about. "Scheduling and Dispach know, ALWAYS!" and "there's an app for that". Astonishing... Part 135 guys are the cowboys...? :)
 
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