121 regs
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higney85
Property of Scheduling
Uhh... what's pornhub? Do they stream good shows for free? I mean, my wife and I have Netflix/Hulu/HBOgo, but.... OMG never mind. Back to the FAR/AIM! This one was!... never mind. I mean.. disregard.
Didn't know that was possible in a human body. Rather intrigued.
Bad. Don't... CTRL+ESC... so cat II lighting systems...? With what rvr?
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Not sure what kind of 121 pilots you fly with...
z987k
Well-Known Member
You get the usual follow the procedure layed out in (we named our manual this). Even from pilots on this board.
Which is how you get funny things like "we'll just shoot the ILS in LNAV/VNAV."
Or, "I'll just waive the rest down to 4 hours".
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I dunno... I've worked at two different 121 outfits and at both places the majority of the guys were/are pretty damn familiar with opspec and 121 language. The terps stuff, less so.
z987k
Well-Known Member
I've been at two 121s and 3 135s. I've always been blown away by the lack of regulation type knowledge in the 121 world. It seems to me everyone relies on the dispatcher or scheduling and just takes them at their word.
Once a month I have to explain something that makes me wonder how a guy gets this far without a stack of violations.
I have a copy of the FAR/AIM on my ipad anymore so that I can show I'm not making stuff up. Along with some interpretations for some stuff that isn't immediately clear.
But hey, that's why we're a team up there.
Flagship_dxer
Penske Material
121 pilots need to be familiar with 121 regs and Ops Specs. Things like uncontrolled airports and certain instrument approaches must be authorized for that airport in the Ops Specs even if you have the approach plates for it. A good example is that for us at AA, we have approach plates for the CAT II approach at PKC but dont have that airport listed in the Ops Specs for CAT II approach authorization.
I remember when TUL had their tower closed for several days and was uncontrolled, a very vigilant pilot reminded me that each airport needed to be authorized in the Ops Specs for non-towered operations. TUL was not and we needed to get a temporary authorization from the Feds before being legal to go.
Troy McClure
Ah say boy...Whattcha got there son?
aaaanyway......FAR/AIM aint go no 121 in it. But you can purchase a FAR/CREW which is 121 and 117 together. smaller lighter handy. know the regs. live longer.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Well, if you are talking about the copy that ASA prints. You could also just get the part 121 PDF from the FAA. As well as the AIM.
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Deleted member 27505
Guest
Use the FAR/AIM. Pretend you need to teach a class on 121 regs to new 121 pilots. Organize the curriculum. Write the content. You never really know something until you can teach it.
z987k
Well-Known Member
Um... the aim still applies to 121.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
It does, yes, with citations for the actual references for each section (including many of the ops specs that 121 airlines have).
It is an expensive book with highly annoying formatting, but the content is excellent:
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
Most of the same opspecs used in 121 seem to be also used in most 135s, unless said 121 carrier has all that awesome equipment installed that allow for more, uh, opspecs/exemptions to use it. CO55, CO71, CO79 for example is used by both. Two obvious ones I found to be missing from our manual was the CAT II opspec and the second alternate exemption when comparing our GOM to Air Wisconsin's.
Referencing the regs themselves seems to be already addressed; I have nothing for you there. I just read through them online, which is probably even more dry than the book, because formatting disaster. I second Netflix and pornhub instead though since ground school is A LOT slower paced than what you've already been through most likely, unless it's not.
Referencing the regs themselves seems to be already addressed; I have nothing for you there. I just read through them online, which is probably even more dry than the book, because formatting disaster. I second Netflix and pornhub instead though since ground school is A LOT slower paced than what you've already been through most likely, unless it's not.
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
PANS-OPS!
jhugz
Well-Known Member
Most of the same opspecs used in 121 seem to be also used in most 135s, unless said 121 carrier has all that awesome equipment installed that allow for more, uh, opspecs/exemptions to use it. CO55, CO71, CO79 for example is used by both. Two obvious ones I found to be missing from our manual was the CAT II opspec and the second alternate exemption when comparing our GOM to Air Wisconsin's.
Referencing the regs themselves seems to be already addressed; I have nothing for you there. I just read through them online, which is probably even more dry than the book, because formatting disaster. I second Netflix and pornhub instead though since ground school is A LOT slower paced than what you've already been through most likely, unless it's not.
Just trying to get a jump on it. A lot of it is self study CBTs so I want to get a decent baseline of knowledge down. Very fast passed for 121 is what it seems.
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