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Bring your own cheese.
Free in-house Delta Pilot Job Fair
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Bring your own cheese.
surreal1221
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I was ridiculously impressed with the event. The level of outreach that Delta is engaging in is very encouraging and should pave the way for an evolution away from the for-profit, but organized by apparent Non-Profits, job fair environment.
Very smart. Another innovative move that should pay off very well - for the organization and for those who are lucky enough to secure a long-term career at Delta Air Lines.
Very smart. Another innovative move that should pay off very well - for the organization and for those who are lucky enough to secure a long-term career at Delta Air Lines.
And a little birdy says that if you have a question about applying, even hear a rumor, drop by http://deltapilotrecruiting.com (links to a public Facebook page) and they'll answer your question truthfully and honestly. Those are not interns running that page! 
scooter2525
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I think some in-n-out is in order soon...
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Deleted member 27505
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Hey, I like Delta too. And, sure, I'd love to fly for them. And, yeah, I'm as in favor of a company having a job fair as the next guy, probably more so. But really? Me thinks thou dost protest too much. A company having a job fair is not exactly "innovative". Especially for a company that has for some time faced an inevitable and indeterminately protracted period of employee deficit, but been unable see it or loathe to admit it, it is actually reactive. Or maybe this is the airline industry where it is innovative, simply because this company is the first to react. Don't have to be good, y'all. Just better than the rest. Good on ya, Delta.
No, I'm not being "negative." I'm just pointing out the obvious. So, if you like, c'mon now and shoot the messenger. Last thing we want is a nekked Emperor.
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Actually, if you know what's been going on behind the scenes beyond the internet, @surreal1221 nailed it.
There is absolutely no applicant deficit at this level. The people that came the career fair with this attitude that they'll eventually have to hire them, repeat after me, "Did not have a good time".
There is absolutely no applicant deficit at this level. The people that came the career fair with this attitude that they'll eventually have to hire them, repeat after me, "Did not have a good time".
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But that wasn't really the point of the post, @Derg. The point was simply to say that someone who finds a company innovative simply because that company finally does what many others have been doing for a long time... well, that person is either wrong or sycophantic... or both.
As far as the applicant deficit... correct, NO. Not now. Wait. You and your management know it. And if you don't, you should. And, NO, that is no reason for someone to feel s/he is "owed" a job. No one is "owed" a job. It must be earned. But, again, that was not the point of my post.
surreal1221
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It's innovative because they're the first to step out in this current hiring environment to put on their own in-house career expo where direct engagement for all potential applicants (re: no special categories) could interact with recruiters for no revenue generated by the hosting firm.
Otherwise, yes, other organizations have hosted in-house job fairs in the current hiring environment but they have been for certain applicants who come from a sub-set of our flying community (re: military guys [JBU and here soon United]). Southwest is also innovating how they engage openly with applicants.
But, clearly, I'm wrong and/or sycophantic. I understand now that in this age of electronic communication some are still strictly black or white analysts of characters or a message.
Otherwise, yes, other organizations have hosted in-house job fairs in the current hiring environment but they have been for certain applicants who come from a sub-set of our flying community (re: military guys [JBU and here soon United]). Southwest is also innovating how they engage openly with applicants.
But, clearly, I'm wrong and/or sycophantic. I understand now that in this age of electronic communication some are still strictly black or white analysts of characters or a message.
A Tesla doesn't look an awful lot different than a early 2000's Pontiac Grand Prix.
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Still missing the point. The point is PERSPECTIVE. I'm not talking about the effing insular airline industry. I'm talking about looking around. Perhaps I have the unfair benefit of having been a management consultant for many years, but the concept of the job fair is NOT NEW. It's been going on for decades in other industries. And if you've read your Ecclesiatses, even those decades don't qualify. I don't like the term innovative, because so often it is used for marketing purposes and not for its actual meaning, to wit: featuring new methods, advanced and original, displaying creative thinking. There is very, very little that is truly innovative, and that there is is typically additive. Having a job fair is so far from being innovative as to be laughable. The fact that people in the airline industry think a job fair is innovative speaks to their myopia, not to their vision and creativity.
Enough said. I'm really not trying to piss people off, but I am. Sorry.
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I'm slow. More explication required.
surreal1221
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Right, and I am talking about the insular airline industry...because well...I know my audience...members of this very online community who are in the airline industry.
And because the subject of this very thread concerns the airline industry. I'm not so sure your past experience as a management consultant is quite the benefit you are proclaiming it to be. Instead, perhaps, that past experience is clouding your ability to see things from a different lens...one that is specific to the industry being discussed here, not ALL industries but yes - I agree, job fairs are not innovative. What is innovative is the departure from the previous process of exploitation of potential applicants by apparent non-profit organizations to one where an organization engages directly (re: without the third party) - oh, and again, this is in the current hiring environment and the airline industry. Put in other words - Delta Air Lines is an innovator of directly engaging with applicants in the current pilot hiring environment, next comes the early adopters...and so on and so forth utilizing the diffusion of innovations principle. Which, I imagine, you are familiar with as a management consultant.
Have a nice evening.
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To the naked eye, they look the same. But the underlying technology is obscenely different.
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Adler
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If you're ever on campus for whatever reason, let me know and I'll come buy you a hamburger.
You can even have cheese! Unless, of course, you're like @Adler and abstain from the meat/dairy blend.
...but was there a gluten free alternative?
Ain't no BMW 7-series or Audi A8 though...
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Well, United already did this, although it was limited to ALPA pilots... which isn't really a bad thing.
